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Re: [50mhz The Magic Band] Old Ham - Newby Question

Just to ad to what Web is saying,

I live in the UK and went on Vactions 2 weeks back to Spain. I took and FT 857 (90watts) and a wire loop but instead of arranging in a quad shape, I used it as a delta loop (triangle) I make it look like and up turned ice cream cone as this gives a 50Ohm feed point rather than aroudn 70Ohm. From my hotle balcony on the Spainish East coast I worked 9 North American stations with signals as high 589 using CW and 58 using SSB!

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From: Web Williams

To: themagicband@...

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: [50mhz The Magic Band] Old Ham - Newby Question

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> May not get "the most". Just have a vertical at about 70 feet.
>
Far from "not getting the most", you're slitting your own throat
trying to work 6M SSB DX with a vertical. Polarization is
much more critical on the higher bands (like 6M and up). You
sound fairly knowledgeable, so I'm sure you know that the
polarization losses between opposite (horizontal vs. vertical)
are 20dB? You won't notice much difference with nearby repeaters,
but for DX, you may as well holler out the window, they'll hear
you just as well. If you can't put up a Yagi, consider a squalo
or squloop. You won't have any gain, but at least that will get
rid of your 20dB loss between you and the stations you're
trying to work. Even a quad loop is better than a vertical, and
not much harder to make out of wire and put up.

It's been said that nobody knows what polarization a signal has
when it comes back down to earth after a hop or two, but trust
me, on VHF this truism is multitudes of degrees less true.

73, -Web (KR4WM)

Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:10 pm

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