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Re: [50mhz The Magic Band] Old Ham - Newby Question

Web Williams wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>> May not get "the most". Just have a vertical at about 70 feet.
>>
>>
> Far from "not getting the most", you're slitting your own throat
> trying to work 6M SSB DX with a vertical. Polarization is
> much more critical on the higher bands (like 6M and up). You
> sound fairly knowledgeable, so I'm sure you know that the
> polarization losses between opposite (horizontal vs. vertical)
> are 20dB? You won't notice much difference with nearby repeaters,
> but for DX, you may as well holler out the window, they'll hear
> you just as well. If you can't put up a Yagi, consider a squalo
> or squloop. You won't have any gain, but at least that will get
> rid of your 20dB loss between you and the stations you're
> trying to work. Even a quad loop is better than a vertical, and
> not much harder to make out of wire and put up.
>
> It's been said that nobody knows what polarization a signal has
> when it comes back down to earth after a hop or two, but trust
> me, on VHF this truism is multitudes of degrees less true.
>
> 73, -Web (KR4WM)
>

I have a 10 meter wire and some extra wire. I thought about cutting the
extra wire into a 6 meter and suspending it below the 10 on spacers.
Then string the whole mess flat top between my two towers at about50 +/-
feet. That arrangement should give some pretty fair radiation East/West
but not much North/South. [ Towers are on the North and South ends of
the house ] From what a friend of mine that is an antenna guru says it
should work. A six meter signal will see resonance on the six meter wire
and radiate from there and a ten meter signal will see the ten meter
wire as resonant and radiate from there.

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I'm new to six. I was told that 52.525 is the call channel to listen to but hear through the grapevine that it's not a "national" thing. Also no "band plan"...
Billie Erin Walsh
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Jun 30, 2009
4:29 pm

I think 52.525 may be FM, 50.125 is SSB (USB) Someone please correct me ... You will want to join these 6M lists as well: AR52MHZ@yahoogroups.com World Wide...
kd4e
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Jun 30, 2009
4:46 pm

Hi Billie, Does this help at all: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/bandplan.html If you want to listen for SSB DX, then 50.110 may be a good place...
Ken Taylor
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Jun 30, 2009
4:50 pm

Hi Billie, Well, band plans are all pretty much by "gentlemans agreement" anyhow, aside from the old CW/digital parts vs. the voice parts of the band which are...
Web Williams
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Jun 30, 2009
5:00 pm

Thanks to Web and Ken for the answers ... We supposedly have three here locally but none seem to be in operation. Can't "kerchunk" any of them. [ politely of...
Billie Erin Walsh
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Jun 30, 2009
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... Far from "not getting the most", you're slitting your own throat trying to work 6M SSB DX with a vertical. Polarization is much more critical on the higher...
Web Williams
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Jun 30, 2009
6:19 pm

... I have a 10 meter wire and some extra wire. I thought about cutting the extra wire into a 6 meter and suspending it below the 10 on spacers. Then string...
Billie Erin Walsh
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Jul 1, 2009
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... Yes, no doubt, it will definitely work. You won't have any gain, but if the band is open, you'll do fine. -Web...
Web Williams
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Jul 1, 2009
1:34 am

the SSB calling frequency is 50.125 michelle wa7pve To: themagicband@... From: bilwalsh@... Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:29:16 -0500 Subject:...
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in Europe the SSB calling QRG is 50.150MHz j ... From: m_baskett@... To: themagicband@... Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: RE:...
Justin - G0KSC
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Jun 30, 2009
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Just to ad to what Web is saying, I live in the UK and went on Vactions 2 weeks back to Spain. I took and FT 857 (90watts) and a wire loop but instead of...
Justin - G0KSC
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Jun 30, 2009
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on friday the 26 june 2009 there was some amazing transatlantic propagation here in scotland many usa and canadians were heard on 6m but vhf tv dx is my main...
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