-----Original Message-----
From: themodelcatalogue@... [mailto:themodelcatalogue@...]On Behalf Of Elliott Saunders
Sent: 01 August 2006 14:38
To: themodelcatalogue@...
Subject: Re: [themodelcatalogue] Digest Number 38

Tom I think that was a perfectly honest and respectful reply you gave the
gentleman.  I would have done the same.  Sometimes, the Internet can make
people act less perfectly than in regular society because there is the
element of no face-to-face contact; they can remain anon with one-use emails
and IP blockers.  Most chat or boards get their fare share, thankfully, you
got rid of him before he made any further problems.

Elliott

----- Original Message -----
From: <themodelcatalogue@...>
To: <themodelcatalogue@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [themodelcatalogue] Digest Number 38


There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

   1.  Re: Model shops in Essex
         From: "redhandmanc" paddy@...
   2.  Apologies are in order!
         From: "Tom Jolly" tom.jolly@...
   3.  Re: Apologies are in order!
         From: "Jim Brokaw" jabrokaw2@...

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Message: 1
   Date: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:07 am
   From: "redhandmanc" paddy@...
Subject: Re: Model shops in Essex


Tell you what - go to hell

I am a 45 year old - and do not need your patronizing bloody
attitude - shove your answer and your forum up your bloody rectum---

Whats more its no wonder no-one ever uses the forums if hats your
attitude

Yes remove me from the members -


> Hi,
>
> Before I reply to your post I need to make a couple of points as
moderator
> of this group.
>
> 1. Please sign off your post with your full name. This is an
important part
> of discussion group protocol which I like to encourage. Would you
go to an
> IPMS meeting with a balaclava on to conceal your identity?
> 2. I find it Interesting what you say about the quality of Revell
mouldings
> however I would prefer that if you are going write any negative
comments
> about third parties you be more specific about your frustrations.
This is so
> that it is of some use to the readers of this group and perhaps to
the
> manufacturer as well.
>
> My moderator hat is off now so I will continue with my response to
your
> post.
>
> I know that Revell will be the first to admit they have some old /
classsic
> moulds in their stable (from Matchbox and the like), which are not
very
> strong on detail compared to the quality seen today in new moulds
and I
> agree that some of them are losing their crispness but the story
is not
> unique to Revell. They continue to roll out these kits simply
because there
> is a demand for them, not because they want to frustrate their
customers.
>
> What is more the new kits that Revell are producing are largely
accepted to
> be top notch when it comes of mould quality and detail. I am always
> stumbling on articles in the press and on discussion boards about
the high
> quality of the work they do. Good examples are the Antonov An-124
or the new
> range of 1:144 kits.
>
> If you want to try other manufacturers (which I would personally
recommend
> for variety anyway) and you want top notch mould quality, go for
Trumpeter,
> Tamiya, Hasegawa or Academy.
>
> I am not familiar with Essex so I cannot recommend any stores I'm
afraid.
>
> Kindest regards,
> Tom Jolly.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: themodelcatalogue@...
> [mailto:themodelcatalogue@...]On Behalf Of
redhandmanc
>   Sent: 29 July 2006 16:57
>   To: themodelcatalogue@...
>   Subject: [themodelcatalogue] Model shops in Essex
>
>
>   Hi - Can anyone recommend any good stockists of plastic model
kits in
>   South Essex.
>
>   IN addition - I am fedup with the bad mouldings I get with
Revell -
>   anyone suggest the best manufacturer at reasonable prices -
mouldings
>   that are good quality please
>
>   thanks
>






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Message: 2
   Date: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:30 pm
   From: "Tom Jolly" tom.jolly@...
Subject: Apologies are in order!


Dear Members,

For those of you who received an email containing some crude language
from an ex-member of this discussion group I apologise. All the
related messages have been deleted from the post history so as not to
offend anyone else (it certainly shocked and offended me).

For the record I have an onerous responsibility as moderator of the
group to ensure that the content of the group is open, polite,
responsible, balanced, non-confrontational and constructive. In
addition, if anyone has an opinion it goes without saying that it must
be backed up with logical reasoning, particularly if it is negative in
nature. If someone has an opinion that a kit is rubbish, that is fine
but do explain why it is considered a pile of junk!

Why? Quite simply because it is the right thing to do, but also
because I don't want to be sued: as moderator and owner of the group
it is me they will come after if anyone writes anything defamatory or
libellous, not the author of the post.

Clearly the content of the gentleman's initial email was lacking
openness (it had no name) and it was mildly confrontational
(propositioning a negative opinion about a reputable name in the
business without backing it up with reasoning).

I tried to craft a response that communicated this message in a polite
and respectful manner. Clearly it was not interpreted in that way and
for that I am truly sorry: it is not in my nature to seek out
confrontation.

I don't think I wrote anything condescending and certainly nothing was
written to justify such an aggressive response. However if I did
perhaps someone will be kind enough to let me know.

You can either post direct to the group or email me directly
(tom<atsign>themodelcatalogue.com)

We never stop learning and if I need to adjust my approach in these
matters I will do so.

Kindest regards,

Tom Jolly.





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Message: 3
   Date: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:29 pm
   From: "Jim Brokaw" jabrokaw2@...
Subject: Re: Apologies are in order!


Apologies may be in order, Tom, but certainly not from
you.  Having shouldered a similar burden, it seems to
me you're doing a fine job.
Carry on,
Jim Brokaw

--- Tom Jolly <tom.jolly@...> wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> For those of you who received an email containing
> some crude language
> from an ex-member of this discussion group I
> apologise. All the
> related messages have been deleted from the post
> history so as not to
> offend anyone else (it certainly shocked and
> offended me).
>
> For the record I have an onerous responsibility as
> moderator of the
> group to ensure that the content of the group is
> open, polite,
> responsible, balanced, non-confrontational and
> constructive. In
> addition, if anyone has an opinion it goes without
> saying that it must
> be backed up with logical reasoning, particularly if
> it is negative in
> nature. If someone has an opinion that a kit is
> rubbish, that is fine
> but do explain why it is considered a pile of junk!
>
> Why? Quite simply because it is the right thing to
> do, but also
> because I don't want to be sued: as moderator and
> owner of the group
> it is me they will come after if anyone writes
> anything defamatory or
> libellous, not the author of the post.
>
> Clearly the content of the gentleman's initial email
> was lacking
> openness (it had no name) and it was mildly
> confrontational
> (propositioning a negative opinion about a reputable
> name in the
> business without backing it up with reasoning).
>
> I tried to craft a response that communicated this
> message in a polite
> and respectful manner. Clearly it was not
> interpreted in that way and
> for that I am truly sorry: it is not in my nature to
> seek out
> confrontation.
>
> I don't think I wrote anything condescending and
> certainly nothing was
> written to justify such an aggressive response.
> However if I did
> perhaps someone will be kind enough to let me know.
>
> You can either post direct to the group or email me
> directly
> (tom<atsign>themodelcatalogue.com)
>
> We never stop learning and if I need to adjust my
> approach in these
> matters I will do so.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Tom Jolly.
>
>
>
>


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