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#679 From: flhnxgvrpixq
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:40 pm
Subject: Natural Remedies For Panic Disorders - How to Get Rid of Panic Disorders Safel
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Do you suffer from panic disorder? Are you tired of trying EVERY conventional
medical treatment and only see ZERO result? If you are tired of wasting valuable
time and money, and would just like to get rid of your panic disorder condition,
then maybe it is time to seek alternatives such as a few natural remedies for
panic disorder, here are a few tips that could help you on your way to recovery.
Not many know the torture that comes with panic disorder. Not only people think
that you are going out of your mind, but they also do not understand the
situation you are in. Hopefully a few of these natural remedies for panic
disorder will help you.
Aromatherapy - This is an all natural approach to treating several conditions.
It can help relieve the stressful feelings which are responsible in starting an
attack, and in doing so, avoiding a full blown panic attack. Practicing
aromatherapy frequently as a natural treatment is not difficult. There are
certain types of aroma that can sooth the mind and make you feel relax, try
lavender which works great!
Massage Therapy - Massage therapy also works great as one of the few natural
remedies for panic disorder. It relieves the body of tension which in turn
promotes positive thinking and good chances of better sleep, which you do need.
Valerian Herb - This herb can be taken as tea, capsules or liquid extracts, and
it is known to relieve those who suffer from insomnia and panic disorder.
There is no better of suppressing panic disorder than the use of natural
remedies for panic disorder. A natural cure is always safer since it does not
put your health at risk, but even so, you should ask your doctor first before
trying anything.

The TRUTH About Overcoming Anxiety and Panic Attacks -
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#678 From: tawantjmhaqb
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:44 pm
Subject: How to Tap the Limitless Power of the Subconscious Mind With These 3 Training
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The power of the subconscious mind is limitless. The power of the mind is more
compelling than you imagine. To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson: "Once you make a
decision, the universe conspires to make it happen.
The power of the subconscious mind has the power to manifest a desire to reality
by communicating between the conscious and the superconscious minds. The
subconscious mind itself, holds the key to manifestation and to have this
access, follow these simple steps to make your desires reality.
Subconscious Mind Training Tool #1- Autosuggestion
Autosuggestion is a mental training process which allows an individual to train
the subconscious mind to believe positive beliefs. Such training can be
accomplished through self-hypnosis methods or a simpler and effective method
like repetitive, constant self-affirmations. The acceptance of self-affirmations
can be quickened with the help of visualization.
Subconscious Mind Training Tool #2- Visualization
Visualization is a popular mind training technique that's regularly used in
sports and other activities, including as a motivational toolkit. Visualization
is the process of creating internal mental images to effect changes in the
conscious behavior. So how does one do visualization? In layman's terms,
visualization is simply the act of imagining. If you can daydream, you can do
visualization.
Subconscious Mind Training Tool #3- Subliminal Programming
Subliminal programming is a popular tool to reprogram the subconscious mind. A
popular technique in subliminal programming is subliminal music. Positive,
uplifting self-affirmations are embedded in the background music to subtly
influence the subconscious mind. This is popular as this requires little work
from the user for all he has to do is to listen to this music on a regular basis
to have the subliminal music create the desire effect. Furthermore, there are
many ready made subliminal music that you can leverage on to create the desires
you want more readily.
Start reprogramming your subconscious mind and prime it for success. Develop the
subconscious mind to unleash the incredible source of unlimited power today.
Make autosuggestion, visualization and subliminal programming as everyday tools
in your motivational toolkit. Remember, subconscious mind training is not that
difficult but more about being consistent and having faith when developing your
subconscious mind.

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#677 From: flhnxgvrpixq
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Panic and Anxiety Attacks - Can You Stop Them Forever?
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Is it possible to stop panic and anxiety attacks forever? Is it possible to keep
your mind under control?
It depends. Most people who experience panic and anxiety attacks can lead
perfectly normal lives. In fact, research shows that certain treatments can
reduce or prevent the attacks in seventy percent to ninety percent of sufferers.
But it varies case by case, and what works for one person may not work for you.
However, that shouldn't stop you from seeking help.
When you seek professional help for panic and anxiety attacks, you work closely
with your doctor or therapist. It's a relationship that won't work unless both
of you work together. The goal is to figure out what's at the root of your
problem, and then find the best way to treat it. You may feel extremely better
after just one session. Or if you're put on medication, it may work immediately.
But for other people, the treatment effects may take longer to materialize.
Don't get discouraged. Also remember that if you do decide to try the self help
route, which is successful for many people, always make sure that you are
diagnosed by your doctor first, and confirmation is given that it is indeed
panic and anxiety attacks that you are suffering.
If you're not ready to seek professional help, you may want to take small steps
towards the self help goal. You can do this by researching self help techniques.
Activities such as meditation and yoga teach you to calm your mind, and control
your breathing. Self-help groups also help people by providing support groups
and emotional help. However, if your case is extreme, self-help may not be the
best first step. In any case, it wouldn't hurt you to consider all your options.
A little research into panic and anxiety attacks can help you decide the best
course of action. There are many books and videos that will help with your
research. You can also visit any local support groups in your area.
With determination, and the support of family and friends, you'll be well on
your way to living a life free of panic and anxiety attacks.
It's worth taking the time out to be checked by your doctor and to pursue some
research on the topic, as they say, knowledge is power.

Cure Your Anxiety, Panic Attacks, Ocd Or Agoraphobia... Permanently! -
http://charlesclin.blogspot.com/#

#676 From: flhnxgvrpixq
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:23 pm
Subject: Treatment For Anxiety Attacks - Discover the Best Treatment For Anxiety Disord
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Let's say us you were analyzed and the result came out that you have anxiety
attacks, usually a disorder sufferer is given a choice of various treatments.
The remedies usually consist of anti-anxiety medication, anti-depressants and
therapy. Taking these treatments have their respective advantages and
disadvantages, and I have broken them down in pieces so you will know.
Anti-Depressants Anti-depressants can also be referred as sedative drug. These
days majority of anti-depressants medications are applied with a mixture of
anti-anxiety. Anxiety attacks do not usually occur on its own; it is mainly the
outcome of an inherent circumstance, and in majority of the circumstances is
triggered by depression. Anxiety can also result to a crippling condition if it
is left untreated, same goes to depression. This justifies the reason why
majority of the doctors, first, handle the causes of the disorder instead of
just its symptoms.
Anti-depressants nowadays consist of SSRI drugs. These involve Zoloft, Prozac
and Paxil. They also have adverse effects which are sexual adverse effects,
dryness of the mouth, sleepiness and reaction in the stomach. After you have
taken the drugs, it will take sometime before it reaches your bloodstream. As
for most persons, it usually takes about 2 weeks before you begin to look okay.
They also have adverse effects in the long run; this simply means that you
should check your blood flow constantly to see that they don't get impaired to
your kidneys or liver. As for most of the persons, ingesting the prescribed dose
of these drugs will aid them to subdue the disorder. The downside of them is
that it consumes a lot of time before getting inside your body and most persons
just abandon them as they sense is not functioning well for them. The rest of
others might believe that their depression has been treated and therefore quit
taking the tablets. I don't recommend you to quit taking the drugs unless it is
recommended and guided by a licensed medical practitioner.
Anti-anxiety drugs Majority of the anti-anxiety drugs, nowadays, that are
usually given are Klonopin and Xanax. They replace the less effective and more
addictive anti-anxiety drugs of the former ones that consist of valium. They are
harmless to take on a short-run basis and you should only take them at the time
you are experiencing anxiety disorder. They will aid to cool the way you feel
down and cause the anxiety to go away.
The disadvantages of taking anti-anxiety drugs is that they develop some forms
of tolerance inside your system and it will result to some kind of steady
withdrawal at the time you attempt to halt taking the drugs. If you feel the
anxiety disorder is awful, just chill till you begin the withdrawal. Medical
practitioners have their own method of aiding one to quit taking anxiety
medications and it won't make you act as if you are stressing your mind. You are
detached off the drugs with the aid of some drugs. When you begin to ingest
anti-anxiety drugs, utilize them meagerly and don't form the habit of depending
on them. When you begin to feel you are consuming more than the way it was
prescribed, then there is every reason to talk to a medical practitioner
concerning a withdrawal program.
Therapy Therapy aids to reach the source of the disorder. Usually a person
experiencing anxiety will frequently center their mind on stuffs that are
unimportant, that isn't the proper treatment for an anxiety attack. Therapy is
simply a huge method to get to the bottom of the problem. The thing is that
everybody doesn't need the instant treatment nowadays, but one that will last
long. Therapy can be helpful more than the other mentioned cure as a way to get
rid of your disorder together with your depression.
You are more likely to be given an anti-anxiety drug when you have an anxiety
attack. If it occurs once again, try to speak to your doctor concerning your
intention to get an anti-depressant to remedy the condition, together with
getting into a therapy program which will aid you in time to come, that is in
the long-term. Anti-anxiety drug might work best for an immediate cure, but it
is not the solution for a long run condition.

Break The Fear Of Having Another Panic Attack :
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#675 From: tlaykheng
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:57 am
Subject: www.ocdcured.com
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This site has good info regarding ocd

#674 From: "sm_telo" <sm_telo@...>
Date: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:33 pm
Subject: acupuncture and nutritional therapy
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Hi,

I am a nutritional therapist and acupuncturist with a special interest
in anyone going through crisis.  I am offering acupuncture for a
discounted rate of £20 for anyone in the group.  You can find me at
www.telotherapies.com. I am happy to answer any questions you may have.
Know that ocd, depression, anxiety is not a natural state and can be
helped through realigning the meridians and correcting nutritional
deficiencies.

Warm Wishes,

Simone Telo, DN Med, Acu. lic

#673 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2007 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Hi sexy baby
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Hi all I have a book out about OCD and how I faced my demons head on and got rid
of most of my OCD. It's called Man Interrupted.  Go to www.amazon.co.uk and
check out the reviews.  It sells there for 5.99 quid and at www.play.com and
free shipping.  You can get it at Borders or Eason's or Waterstones or any book
shop too. It has two Oscar winners on the cover praising my book.  Cheers Jim





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#672 From: "f0xl0ve" <f0xl0ve@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2007 3:56 pm
Subject: Hi sexy baby
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#671 From: "joebobmichael25" <joebobmichael25@...>
Date: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:31 am
Subject: I got sick of my OCD and and decided to fight back and I won!
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Hi all my fellow sufferers. I had severe depression and anxiety and
OCD for over thirty years and even tried to end my life but I finally
got sick of it and started fighting back! I have written a memoir
called Man Interrupted so check it out as it will inspire you. They
have it for about 5 quid at amazon.co.uk and play.com or go to any
book shop. I hope it will inpire you tooo. Cheers James

#670 From: "amyleng25" <amyleng25@...>
Date: Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:48 am
Subject: I am very interested in your yahoo profile!!
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I am a 22 years old girl, I just saw your yahoo profile in my group
and like it a lot! Could you sign up this site for free to chat to me
directly? Then we can know each other better. My username is Judylee
on this site.

http://www.perfectmuslim.bite.to

#669 From: Kirsten Alexander <kirstenalexander187@...>
Date: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Hello
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Thanks - I'll have a look :)

   Kirsten

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Interrupted. Go to www.amazon.co.uk and check out the great reviews. Its out at
waterstones etc. Best James

Kirsten Alexander <kirstenalexander187@...> wrote: My name is Kirsten
and I've just joined this group. I live in the UK and I've had (or think I've
had) OCD for just over 10 years now.

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#668 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:31 am
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Hello
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to www.amazon.co.uk and check out the great reviews.  Its out at waterstones
etc.   Best James

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Kirsten and I've just joined this group. I live in the UK and I've had (or think
I've had) OCD for just over 10 years now.

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#667 From: Kirsten Alexander <kirstenalexander187@...>
Date: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:55 pm
Subject: Hello
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My name is Kirsten and I've just joined this group.  I live in the UK and I've
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#666 From: Nicky Ryan <nicannryan@...>
Date: Sat Jan 6, 2007 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Please help..
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Hi,
   I'd be happy to help. I have BDD which is considered, by some but not
necessarily all (so i understand) to come under the OCD spectrum. You may not
find me as helpful to your research, but if you do want to know or want to talk
to me some more that fine.

   Good luck with your reasearch.

   Nicky

Georgina Smith <georgina_thesis@...> wrote:
   Hello there..

I'm looking for people with OCD to take part in some research.

I have been trying to find people to take part in my study for over 4 months
now and have only managed to interview 15 people (I need 30).

The people who have taken part have said that they found it interesting and
that it felt good to contribute to the understanding of OCD (you are the
only people who can do that). People have also been surprised that I don't
ask any intrusive or personal questions about their experience of OCD.

I have visited a large number of OCD support groups to talk about the
research and information has been sent out to 1200+ members of OCD Action..
I don't know what else to do!

If you are interested in taking part then you will be asked to complete a
few questionnaires followed by a short interview. All responses are
confidential and anonymous and you are free to withdraw at any time.

I can book rooms for the research interview in central London or I am
willing to travel to you to do the interview at your home/the location of a
support group if you're not too far away.

If you are interested in taking part then please contact me for more
information: georgina_thesis@...

If not, can you give me any feedback. Why are people not interested in
taking part? Is there something I should/shouldn't be saying/doing? Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time
Georgina

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#665 From: "Georgina Smith" <georgina_thesis@...>
Date: Sat Jan 6, 2007 11:43 am
Subject: Please help..
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Hello there..

I'm looking for people with OCD to take part in some research.

I have been trying to find people to take part in my study for over 4 months
now and have only managed to interview 15 people (I need 30).

The people who have taken part have said that they found it interesting and
that it felt good to contribute to the understanding of OCD (you are the
only people who can do that). People have also been surprised that I don't
ask any intrusive or personal questions about their experience of OCD.

I have visited a large number of OCD support groups to talk about the
research and information has been sent out to 1200+ members of OCD Action..
I don't know what else to do!

If you are interested in taking part then you will be asked to complete a
few questionnaires followed by a short interview. All responses are
confidential and anonymous and you are free to withdraw at any time.

I can book rooms for the research interview in central London or I am
willing to travel to you to do the interview at your home/the location of a
support group if you're not too far away.

If you are interested in taking part then please contact me for more
information: georgina_thesis@...

If not, can you give me any feedback. Why are people not interested in
taking part? Is there something I should/shouldn't be saying/doing? Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time
Georgina

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#664 From: "georgina_thesis" <georgina_thesis@...>
Date: Sat Jan 6, 2007 11:21 am
Subject: please help..
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Hello there..



I'm looking for people with OCD to take part in some research.



I have been trying to find people to take part in my study for over 4
months now and have only managed to interview 15 people (I need 30).



The people who have taken part have said that they found it interesting
and that it felt good to contribute to the understanding of OCD (you are
the only people who can do that). People have also been surprised that I
don't ask any intrusive or personal questions about their experience of
OCD.



I have visited a large number of OCD support groups to talk about the
research and information has been sent out to 1200+ members of OCD
Action.. I don't know what else to do!



If you are interested in taking part then you will be asked to complete
a few questionnaires followed by a short interview. All responses are
confidential and anonymous and you are free to withdraw at any time.



I can book rooms for the research interview in central London or I am
willing to travel to you to do the interview at your home/the location
of a support group if you're not too far away.



If you are interested in taking part then please contact me for more
information: georgina_thesis@...



If not, can you give me any feedback. Why are people not interested in
taking part? Is there something I should/shouldn't be saying/doing? Any
advice is greatly appreciated.



Thanks for your time

Georgina



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#663 From: "john4flower" <john4flower@...>
Date: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:45 pm
Subject: I just crouch to kiss u...
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#662 From: "julyding2" <julyding2@...>
Date: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:11 am
Subject: Happy New Year! I like your yahoo profile very much!
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I am a 22 years old girl, I just saw your yahoo profile in my group
and like it a lot! Could you sign up this site for free to chat to me
directly? Then we can know each other better. My username is Judylee
on this site.

http://www.perfectmuslim.bite.to

#661 From: "joebobmichael" <joebobmichael@...>
Date: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:14 pm
Subject: Blog from my published book on OCD
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Hi all this a blog from my new book Man, Interrupted out in UK and
Ireland.  I hope you get a little laughter out of it.  Best James


The taxi pulled in front of the sign that read Within Reach Hospital.
It suddenly began to rain. Was that an omen? It dawned on me why you
always see a cab pulling up in front of a hospital in those movies
about people with emotional problems. The director wanted to
symbolize that this was just the beginning of the journey, not the
end. When did my problems really begin? I have thought about that
question for years and years. I guess my first anxiety attack came
when I was five. Of course back then they didn't call it that. At
that time my Father and Mother had just gotten a divorce in Kansas
and the court awarded custody of me, my brother and sister, to my
Mother.That would have been great, but unfortunately my mother said
she wasn't getting enough child support for all of us and kept only
my sister.  I still remember vividly them dragging me out of her car
as I clung to the seat.  I stared at my sister as they drove away
toward Minnesota, my mom's home state.  A couple years later, living
with my dad and step mom number two, I ended up being taken to the
emergency room for some imaginary pain in my back. In retrospect that
was the beginning of the end that led me here.  Why couldn't it have
been me instead of my sister?  The vision of them driving away haunts
me even to this day. Why did it affect me and not my brother?  My
mind was always working. I couldn't stop it. Its weird that I'd even
made it this far. Just three days ago I was sitting on my butt
wondering if I had the nerve to come to Berkeley  and the famous
Within Reach Psychiatric Hospital. In the movies they called the
hospital something else. I guess for legal reasons. But just look at
all the books and good ole Within Reach was the hospital. The cab
pulled up to the house in front Within Reach where I would be
staying. Somehow it looked better in the brochure they sent me. Hell,
I had to wait almost a year to get in. I guess after suffering for
twenty-five years, what's another year, right? The cabbie got out and
pulled my suitcase out of the trunk. He looked like a cabbie. The
look of a guy who never slept and whos diet consisted of endless cups
of coffee and unfiltered cigarettes. Whose idea of a healthy diet was
an occasional fish sandwich at McDonalds. I got out and was debating
what kind of tip I should give him, since I'd already given him the
fare in advance at the airport. As I turned to look at him, he darted
into his cab and drove off. I knew what he was thinking. He was
afraid I was a wacko and feared I might do something to him. No
wonder he hadn't said a word all the way here. I would be thinking
about this way into the night.  What can I say? This is the life of a
guy with OCD.  I grabbed my luggage and opened the front door.  "Are
you James the new patient?" A tall skinny guy said this to me as he
blocked my pathway. I nodded yes. "James you are not allowed to use
this door, it's only for staff." He told me to go back around to the
front of the house.  Of course that was not the greeting I was
expecting but at least it took my mind off the cabbie.  I stumbled
around to the front looking for the entrance when I was pleasantly
surprised by this cute blond who popped out of nowhere.  "You must be
James O'Bailey. We've been expecting you. Take your luggage and
follow me to your room." I grabbed my luggage and walked in, but
somehow the blond disappeared. I looked around until I spotted
blondie talking to the dude who gave me that great welcoming party. I
started to yell out to her but she ran off into another room.  I
figured this was a good time to go use the bathroom since I'd been
holding it in during the cab ride. I walked up to a crew cut guy and
asked him where the head was.  "Number one or number two?" He
asked. "I got to take a crap."  "We don't talk that way around here,
James. It's number one or number two." I knew this guy was going to
be a problem. "Well sir, when I go do to number two, I usually have a
little number one going on, too. So what would that be?" He hesitated
a moment. I knew exactly what he was thinking: I can't let this
patient get to me. I'm the educated professional here. He handed me a
key and a small role of toilet paper with just a few sheets and
started to shut the door, you know, one of those types of doors that
are cut in half so you can open and shut the top to dispense medicine
without the patient actually getting inside the office.  I stuck my
hand in to prevent him from closing it. "Hey, buddy, I'll need a
little more than that!" He gave me a funny look.  "That's how we cure
your OCD."   "I don't have a problem with that!"  He told me that
later when he had a chance to check the files if that wasn't a
problem of mine that I would be allowed to take a roll in with me.  I
started mouthing off and before I could finish, the cubicle was shut.
Now I was getting upset! The cute blond walked up. "I heard you say
you have to use the bathroom." "I did but now after all this, I lost
that feeling." "Then you won't be needing this." She grabbed the key
and the toilet paper roll from my hands. "Why did you do that?" I
said. "We can't have you hoarding toilet paper." "Listen a mosquito
couldn't wipe his butt with that!"  I guess I wasn't surprised when
she didn't respond. I couldn't say I blamed her. A moment later she
spoke.  "You ready to go to your room?" "Sure."  I followed the
little blond up the staircase as she told me her name was Mary and
that the guy with the crew cut was Harry. "I think that guy has an
attitude," I said to her.  She didn't respond. She showed me my
room. "Oh, James, the maid must have forgotten to clean and sanitize
the mattress." I looked on a little shell-shocked. The mattress was
one of those prison types: hard as rock, with a big slit in it. Plus,
you don't mention the word "sanitize" around a person with OCD! Our
brains all kick in with, "Why does it need sanitizing?"   "I will
just take that bed over there, Sherry." I pointed to an already made
up bed on the other side of the room. "My name is Mary and, no, that
bed is for Raymond, your roommate." "Who slept on it before miss and
why does it need sanitizing?" I said. "You're asking for reassurance
James and we don't allow that here. Be it from staff or fellow
patients."  "Thanks Mary because now I'm having a full blown anxiety
attack!"  "Don't worry James, I'll go ask Harry what to do." "Was the
last patient a drug addict, is that why there are slits in the
mattress?"  "Reassurance again, James."  I tried not to ask her again
but the anxiety running through me was too much to ignore.  "Come on,
you're the one who started it with that, "it needs sanitizing
remark."  Mary just stared at me.  "Yes I need fricking
reassurance!"  Mary just shook her head no and ran down the stairs.
It dawned on me that the only way I was going to get reassurance
around this place was to check the bed myself.   It also dawned on me
why I was causing such a commotion since I only arrived a few minutes
earlier?  After all I had been on the waiting list for over a year
and I make an entrance like that?  I quickly dismissed it to "self-
sabotage," but more about that later. My mind was on the mattress.  I
slowly made my way to the bed making sure I wasn't getting too close.
I tried to imagine some positive reason why there would be slits in
the mattress.  Maybe the guy was hiding soap in the mattress because
he had such a fear of germs.  Maybe he farted so hard he blew holes
in it.  Maybe he made the slits to hide his porno magazines.  Of
course he was depressed, but he was totally against drugs, right?  I
knew I was in the middle of an obsession and my compulsion, getting
reassurance, was not going to happen from Mary. I also knew I had to
do something before it went to a full blown anxiety attack! I looked
to the other side of the room and tried to focus on my roommates well
made bed. They told me in the email I would be living with twenty
other "freaks" like myself. My "words" not theirs.  That scared the
hell out of me. I couldn't even be in the same room with one person
for longer than ten minutes without having an anxiety attack.  Just
then Mary reentered the room. "Harry says you can change rooms. You
get to have two room mates now. Isn't that great?" Just then a
flamboyant looking guy yelled out from the next room. "Hi, I'm Adam.
You can be our roommate!" Oh Lord.  Now, I had nothing against gays,
but I didn't want to room with one either.  "Listen, can't we just
change mattresses, Miss?" She hesitated for a moment then said, "Let
me go ask Harry."  I sat around on the floor for what seemed like a
half hour waiting for the girl. It finally dawned on me that she
wasn't coming back.  During her absence I wondered why I was such a
homophobe.  I quickly thought about a thought I had locked away in my
mind many moons ago... Maybe I was gay? Finally I got up and walked
downstairs.  As I was about to hit the last step a big fat guy popped
out of nowhere and stuck out his hand. "I'm Tim. Glad to meet you." I
didn't want to shake his hand, but it was too late. His big paw
engulfed my hand. How was I going to wash my hands? Harry had the
only key to the rest room.  I looked up at the fat guy. He was
sweating like a pig and his face was covered with zits. Oh man, my
hands and fingers had to be crawling with germs now! What if he'd
just taken a number two and wiped his big butt with that little sheet
of paper? Oh God, I had to get in the bathroom and fast. I ran over
to the cubicle and knocked on the door! Harry answered. "Uh, Harry
can I change the mattress and I, uh, got to get the key to the
restroom?"  "Another patient has the key so you'll have to wait and I
already changed the mattress!" The door was quickly closed. How in
the hell did he change__

#660 From: "joebobmichael14" <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 8:14 pm
Subject: I faced my OCD demons and won!
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Hi all I am the author Of Man Interrupted.   I had severe OCD,
depression and anxiety and even attempted suicide but finally beat it.
My short adivce is that I got an exercise regimen and whenever the
unwanted obsessions started attacking my brain and would just say I
know their not real. I found out that if I could just postopone
joinging in the obsession i.e. go for a jog and I will worry about
these fears later! The obsessions would begin to slow down. I think
the most important thing is to have some kind of hesitation because
once you join in the wild obessions the only part time releif is to
get some kind of reassurance. of course it's not easy but I just
wanted to give you some insight on how I did it best Jim

#659 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Jim
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hi ruthie reassurance was my biggest thing so I understand all tooooo much!!    
you can order it from www.amazon.co.uk       like I did and I'm in america  it
only takes about a week and its about the same as american price.   jim

Twilight51@... wrote:    Hi Jim ,your so welcome ,i just saw your question
asking what kind
  symptom i have ,i'm just leaving to go to council group ,their is only
  one person in this group with ocd a guy ,..Jim i have a little bit
  everything with ocd ,i'll be back on later ,geez it took me 4 hours
  getting ready unreal, i keep telling myself no more i can't take this
  spending hours on my hair and just my appearance and some rituals  GERM
  PHOBIA i don't touch door knobs etc counting,meaning if i don't
  something bad will happen,...i am always driving my boyfriend family
  crazy asking for reassurrance ,this group i'm going to now it's
  difficult because eveyone doesn't have ocd ,some don't understand and
  its embarrasing explaining ,..i went on the link you sent but couldn't
  find your book ,later i will try again.... i live in pennsylvania we
  have a Barnes and noble book store here would they sell your book in
  there ,okay i have to leave now ,take care: i'll be on later}
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#658 From: Twilight51@...
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Jim
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Hi Jim ,your so welcome ,i just saw your question asking what kind
symptom i have ,i'm just leaving to go to council group ,their is only
one person in this group with ocd a guy ,..Jim i have a little bit
everything with ocd ,i'll be back on later ,geez it took me 4 hours
getting ready unreal, i keep telling myself no more i can't take this
spending hours on my hair and just my appearance and some rituals  GERM
PHOBIA i don't touch door knobs etc counting,meaning if i don't
something bad will happen,...i am always driving my boyfriend family
crazy asking for reassurrance ,this group i'm going to now it's
difficult because eveyone doesn't have ocd ,some don't understand and
its embarrasing explaining ,..i went on the link you sent but couldn't
find your book ,later i will try again.... i live in pennsylvania we
have a Barnes and noble book store here would they sell your book in
there ,okay i have to leave now ,take care: i'll be on later}
ruthie

#657 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 5:12 pm
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what kind of symptoms do you have ruthie?  jim

joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...> wrote:    thanks much ruthie!!! 
please give me some feedback after you read it!!!   Best jim

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,that's wonderful you beat
   the OCD your book sounds interesting ,i will check it out, Thank you and
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#656 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 4:55 am
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thanks much ruthie!!!  please give me some feedback after you read it!!!   Best
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HI Joe, i think thats your name wasn't sure ,that's wonderful you beat
the OCD your book sounds interesting ,i will check it out, Thank you and
Best Wishes to you:}      Ruthie

#654 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 3:39 am
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Nicky
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              I had severe OCD for at least 25 years and depression and anxiety
attacks and on and on and even tried suicide! Today I am happy and leading a
relatively free from OCD. I beat it a most unconventional way and wrote a book
about it called Man, Interrupted. It's out in bookstores in UK Australia etc
check out the synopsis at www.amazon.co.uk  if you read it give me some feedback
at joebobmichael13@...  I hope it will give you some laughter tooo!

Twilight51@... wrote:    Hi Nicky,i was thinking about you ,glad to hear
from you i know it's so
  hard when you just feel STUCK, ....i must be hard when you are in the
  bathroom and someone has to get in there,and you are going through those
  rituals with your hair  omg Nicky ,i live in an apt i am in my bedroom
  for hours just obsessively fixing my hair and when i am going out
  somewhere i can't have no interuptions ,i am getting so tired of
  spending 4 hours styling .curling my hair and and checking if it's just
  right i have to go back keep checking ,....you said something i can sure
  relate to about not wanting to really look in mirror's ,if i go shopping
  i am worse now i can't look in mirror's there and like you i have a
  small mirror carry in my purse if i'm out i look in it try not to see my
  hair just check my lipstick and makeup, because if i did i can't fix my
  hair anywhere but home , i also can't stay at a friends orvist my sister
  that lives in indianapois ,becoz i told her my OCD would interfere ,few
  years ago i went to indiana and my B/F and i stayed at his brothers for
  a week ,Oh i was a mess i set an alarm woke up at 4 am so no one would
  see how long it took me to get done so i never went to stay anywhere
  since isn't it torture ,that 's so heartbreaking that you hang towels
  over bathroom window before you start your rituals with your hair ,i
  have to pull my shade all the way down  in my bedroom ,i have tons stuff
  on my dresser that i need to complete my rituals, i feel drained and so
  tired ,would you believe my hair is shorter on one side but i can't part
  with getting longer side cut ,becoz and i usually need things symetrical
  too but since the alopecia my hair won't grow like it did,so its
  shoulder length it was middle of my back  ....Nicky i watch the Tyra
  Banks show everyday not sure if you get it where you live .but she
  always has alot good shows on i think she did one on ocd i missed some
  of it ,....i know how hard it must be for you worrying about your
  job,,must be so stressful and frustrating thinking how you would pay
  your Rent ,i go for councling and now i am not wanting to go there and i
  need to socialize ,but  can't stop thinking about my hair and how it
  looks......i know what you mean about your family thinking you don't
  have a problem ,and not seeing it the way you do ,same with me ,...they
  say theirs nothing wrong with your hair, everyone tells me you are more
  than your hair they think they understand but they don't  ,my boyfriend
  tells me only you notice no one elsedoes ,but i feel the pain inside and
  know what i have to go through i'm sure you do too, whats easy for one
  person isn't always easy for the other ,......Nicky i now wha you mean
  about being afraid to tell your boyfriend you cut your hair ,wow you
  think like me ,i'm like that with few friends i don't tell becoz than i
  think they will focus on i ,i made the mistake telling a neighber friend
  now i think when i leave my apt shes always watching me ,and i wish i
  never had told her ,but i was so depressed at the time i needed someone
  to talk to, Nicky if it does get debiltating for you and you are afraid
  losing your job and you need pay rent etc ,is their any kind help
  financially like ssi some kind plan in case it doesn't get better for
  you i have to see a pychiatrist and my therapist lft for another job, so
  i go to councling once a week, i always see my sisters and wonder why
  this happened to me i think ,if they only knew my real pain ,my
  boyfriend does he sees what i go through ...please know that you can
  always e mail me if need to talk to someone ,i sure wish the OCD group
  was still around ,this girl just started around time they stopped the
  groupd but she couldn't stop cutting her bangs they were up to her hair
  line i felt so bad for her .....Nicky i hope things get better for us
  too ,i hope you find some peace also take care please keep in touch Bye
  now:}    Hug's Ruthie



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#653 From: Twilight51@...
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 1:27 am
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Nicky
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Hi Nicky,i was thinking about you ,glad to hear from you i know it's so
hard when you just feel STUCK, ....i must be hard when you are in the
bathroom and someone has to get in there,and you are going through those
rituals with your hair  omg Nicky ,i live in an apt i am in my bedroom
for hours just obsessively fixing my hair and when i am going out
somewhere i can't have no interuptions ,i am getting so tired of
spending 4 hours styling .curling my hair and and checking if it's just
right i have to go back keep checking ,....you said something i can sure
relate to about not wanting to really look in mirror's ,if i go shopping
i am worse now i can't look in mirror's there and like you i have a
small mirror carry in my purse if i'm out i look in it try not to see my
hair just check my lipstick and makeup, because if i did i can't fix my
hair anywhere but home , i also can't stay at a friends orvist my sister
that lives in indianapois ,becoz i told her my OCD would interfere ,few
years ago i went to indiana and my B/F and i stayed at his brothers for
a week ,Oh i was a mess i set an alarm woke up at 4 am so no one would
see how long it took me to get done so i never went to stay anywhere
since isn't it torture ,that 's so heartbreaking that you hang towels
over bathroom window before you start your rituals with your hair ,i
have to pull my shade all the way down  in my bedroom ,i have tons stuff
on my dresser that i need to complete my rituals, i feel drained and so
tired ,would you believe my hair is shorter on one side but i can't part
with getting longer side cut ,becoz and i usually need things symetrical
too but since the alopecia my hair won't grow like it did,so its
shoulder length it was middle of my back  ....Nicky i watch the Tyra
Banks show everyday not sure if you get it where you live .but she
always has alot good shows on i think she did one on ocd i missed some
of it ,....i know how hard it must be for you worrying about your
job,,must be so stressful and frustrating thinking how you would pay
your Rent ,i go for councling and now i am not wanting to go there and i
need to socialize ,but  can't stop thinking about my hair and how it
looks......i know what you mean about your family thinking you don't
have a problem ,and not seeing it the way you do ,same with me ,...they
say theirs nothing wrong with your hair, everyone tells me you are more
than your hair they think they understand but they don't  ,my boyfriend
tells me only you notice no one elsedoes ,but i feel the pain inside and
know what i have to go through i'm sure you do too, whats easy for one
person isn't always easy for the other ,......Nicky i now wha you mean
about being afraid to tell your boyfriend you cut your hair ,wow you
think like me ,i'm like that with few friends i don't tell becoz than i
think they will focus on i ,i made the mistake telling a neighber friend
now i think when i leave my apt shes always watching me ,and i wish i
never had told her ,but i was so depressed at the time i needed someone
to talk to, Nicky if it does get debiltating for you and you are afraid
losing your job and you need pay rent etc ,is their any kind help
financially like ssi some kind plan in case it doesn't get better for
you i have to see a pychiatrist and my therapist lft for another job, so
i go to councling once a week, i always see my sisters and wonder why
this happened to me i think ,if they only knew my real pain ,my
boyfriend does he sees what i go through ...please know that you can
always e mail me if need to talk to someone ,i sure wish the OCD group
was still around ,this girl just started around time they stopped the
groupd but she couldn't stop cutting her bangs they were up to her hair
line i felt so bad for her .....Nicky i hope things get better for us
too ,i hope you find some peace also take care please keep in touch Bye
now:}    Hug's Ruthie

#652 From: Nicky Ryan <nicannryan@...>
Date: Sun May 7, 2006 11:56 am
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Nicky
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hello Ruthie,

   I feel bad for you, i hope you are ok and can get through this. I feel really
stuck too, Some days i feel like i'm getting better but then i have a bad day
and feel like i might lose my job and then how could i pay my rent? On those
days it feels like the end, but i get out of it somehow. I stay at my mum's on
the weekend but i don't have a bedroom there so i have to do my hair in the
bathroom where no one can see me. I get so frustrated because within five
minutes somone is banging the door down to get in there and i have to rearrange
the bathroom to do my rituals (hang towels over the window and stuff) so it
takes ages just setting everything up before i even start my hair.

   I am a girl, i have short hair. I have thought about growing it, but even when
i can manage to stop cutting it i can't stop myself going to the hairdressers
every few weeks and it never grows long enough.

   It stops me staying at friend's houses because i feel like I can't lock myself
in their bathroom for hours at a time. My boyfriend lives with me now but it
means that i can't get away to do my hair cutting so i'm finding that difficult
at the moment. I'd like to tell him that i cut my hair but i'm afraid that he'd
look at me strangly and start focussing on my hair. Even if he wasn't i'd
imagine that he was and it'd make make me crazy.

   My family tend to think that i don't really have a problem because they can't
see it the same way as i do. they don't appreciate how much time and energy this
thing takes up and how every thing else that i do is made much more difficult.
Even just going out to the shop, or getting on a bus.

   I have a mirror phobia because i can't look myself in the mirror unless the
curtains are closed and the mirror has to be a tiny one just about big enough
for me to see a bit of my hair at a time. it's amazing how many mirrors there
are everywhere, shops, restaurants, shop windows, any windows. if i'm in the
back of a car i have to sit on the left side or else i can see my relection in
the rear view mirror!

   I have other ocd behaviours too. when i was a little girl i was obsessed with
being clean, when i got older that one seemed to fade but was replaced by an
argument that i had to go through in my head about god and whether he existed. I
wouldn't go out until i had gone thorugh this ridiculous argument with myself.
my hair problem has lasted longest and had the most debilitating affect on my
life.

   I find it difficult to talk about this face to face because people can look at
me while i'l explaining it and i'd rather just hide, i can't look them in the
face. So it's nice to have somone to talk too. it helps to know that there are
other people out there with these problems. I hope you find some peace soon
Ruthie.

   Take care,
   Hugs
   Nicky

Twilight51@... wrote:
   Hi Nicky ,Thank's for asking i'm about the same meaning i'm still
obsessing ,and spending hours on my hair ,and alot money on hair
products,my dr told me stress may caused me to delveopl alopecia i'm on
the internet looking up everythng i can find on itdrives me crazy ,Well
i am thinking taking paxil 50 mg ,becoz i never have peace of mind ,
..Nicky i''m sorry to hear you are still having the hair problem, i
would tell the people at work about your OCD ,i'm sure they would
understand .. i tell others ,it's something we can't help at times
......wow you shaved your head i FEEL so bad for you ,i wanted to ask
are you a girl ,becoz i have few nicole's in my family and nicholas the
reason i ask also i was wondering is your hair long, i can imagine what
you go through , You know when my B/F or family ask me to go somewhere i
have to know the day ahead ,i can never go unless i spend all  those
hours on my hair, my family trys to understand ,anything has to do with
HAIR even my eyelashes i sit with an eyecurler longer than one should
,and now that i have this alopecia problem ,some people can lose all
their hair ...well i will need more than paxil for sure ,my
pyschiatrist, doesn't spend much time with me ,my sister will say i
never thought a simple thing as hair could disrupt your life ,i tell her
shes lucky she isn't one suffering, really ,it seems no matter how much
of an early start i get try and get through this ritual ,i still can be
late ,Nicky do you have any other ocd problem's ,i have germ phobia and
superstions meaing if i don't do something certain way i feel like
something bad will happen, it's so frustrating i just feel STUCK ,is
that how you feel? i wish their was something i can say that would help
you, now i am obsessed with losing my hair ,thats all i need ,i look for
reasurrance constantly from famly /my BF my dr said thats what most ocd
suffers do,...Please let me know how you are doing ,it feels good not to
be  feel alone living with ocd ,take care keep in touch e mail me
anytime :}                                                      Hug's to
you                                                  Ruthie



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#651 From: Twilight51@...
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Nicky
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Hi Nicky ,Thank's for asking i'm about the same meaning i'm still
obsessing ,and spending hours on my hair ,and alot money on hair
products,my dr told me stress may caused me to delveopl alopecia i'm on
the internet looking up everythng i can find on itdrives me crazy ,Well
i am thinking taking paxil 50 mg ,becoz i never have peace of mind ,
..Nicky i''m sorry to hear you are still having the hair problem, i
would tell the people at work about your OCD ,i'm sure they would
understand .. i tell others ,it's something we can't help at times
......wow you shaved your head i FEEL so bad for you ,i wanted to ask
are you a girl ,becoz i have few nicole's in my family and nicholas the
reason i ask also i was wondering is your hair long, i can imagine what
you go through , You know when my B/F or family ask me to go somewhere i
have to know the day ahead ,i can never go unless i spend all  those
hours on my hair, my family trys to understand ,anything has to do with
HAIR even my eyelashes i sit with an eyecurler longer than one should
,and now that i have this alopecia problem ,some people can lose all
their hair ...well i will need more than paxil for sure ,my
pyschiatrist, doesn't spend much time with me ,my sister will say i
never thought a simple thing as hair could disrupt your life ,i tell her
shes lucky she isn't one suffering, really ,it seems no matter how much
of an early start i get try and get through this ritual ,i still can be
late ,Nicky do you have any other ocd problem's ,i have germ phobia and
superstions meaing if i don't do something certain way i feel like
something bad will happen, it's so frustrating i just feel STUCK ,is
that how you feel? i wish their was something i can say that would help
you, now i am obsessed with losing my hair ,thats all i need ,i look for
reasurrance constantly from famly /my BF my dr said thats what most ocd
suffers do,...Please let me know how you are doing ,it feels good not to
be  feel alone living with ocd ,take care keep in touch e mail me
anytime :}                                                      Hug's to
you                                                  Ruthie

#650 From: joebobmichael smith <joebobmichael14@...>
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: [The Obsessively Clean Den] Nicky
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try reading my book Man,Interrupted.  I was suicidal before I cured my OCD in a
most unconventional way!  it's out in U.K. and australian bookstores,  or go to
www.amazon.co.uk  and check it out.  please give me some feedback if you read it
at joebobmichael13@...    best Jim

Nicky Ryan <nicannryan@...> wrote:    Hello Ruthie,

    I hope you're ok. I got so frustrated with my hair cutting that i shaved it
all off. it's grown back now but often think about going it again. I was a
student when i shaved it off the first time and that was okay everyone assumed i
was making some sort of fashion statement, but i have a job now and it would be
difficult to get away with. sometimes i think about telling people at work
because they must get frustrated with me being late to work all the time. Does
your Pyschiatrist know that you are scared to take paxil? they won't make you
take it but will give you their best proffesional advice about it? I have only
taken fluoxetine but that doesn't seem to work for me and i'm still on the
waiting list to see a therapist.

    Hugs
    Nicky x

  Twilight51@... wrote:
    Hi Nicky, I can sort of relate to your OCD with cutting your hair ,i
  have OCD also and one obsession is spending hours to style my hair
  meaning 3 hours at times, it's all i think about, i worried myself so
  much that i was diagnosed with alopecia 2 years ago   so now i'm a mess
  ,i FEEL for you i know it can interfere with your daily life ,my
  pyschiatrist wants me to take paxil ,but i'm too scared right now,
  thanks for sharing your OCD problem just know your not alone ,i did see
  a tal show few years back where this girl had OCD kept cuttng her bangs
  until their wasn't any left ,take care :}
  Ruthie



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