Sign In
New User? Sign Up
tinycad
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
You can send a message to the group from the Web site?

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Multiple SYMBOLDEFs problem   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #1503 of 1757 |
Re: Multiple SYMBOLDEFs problem

What version of TinyCAD are you using?

The .dsn file is an ascii file containing XML statements. If there are actually
multiple definitions of a symbol in the design, then you should be able to find
it in the .dsn file by editing with text editor such as notepad. If you locate
such a problem, please send me a copy of the design file and any information
that you might have that would allow me to reproduce the problem.

Thanks,

Don Lucas


--- In tinycad@..., "mkishinevsky" <mkishinevsky@...> wrote:
>
> I am struggling with a problem that schematic accumulates multiple SYMBOLDEFs
for the same symbol. It is especially dangerous because I changed pin length of
a symbol at some point, but both versions are still in the .dsn file. As a
result, sometimes pins get disconnected from wires, especially when I copy/paste
schematic to a different file.
>
> Is there a way to clean up?
> The menu item "cleanup" does not exists in newer versions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> mike
>





Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:00 pm

donlucas51
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #1503 of 1757 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

I am struggling with a problem that schematic accumulates multiple SYMBOLDEFs for the same symbol. It is especially dangerous because I changed pin length of...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Jun 23, 2009
3:09 pm

What version of TinyCAD are you using? The .dsn file is an ascii file containing XML statements. If there are actually multiple definitions of a symbol in the...
Don Lucas
donlucas51
Offline Send Email
Jun 23, 2009
4:00 pm

It is easy to create this situation in v2.60.01. If you enter a symbol from a library on to a schematic then go into the library/symbol editor and change it...
a10d0n
Offline Send Email
Jun 24, 2009
4:57 pm

Phil - I don't see how this particular example can be considered to be a bug. You are describing normal and desireable behavior. Just because a symbol is...
Don Lucas
donlucas51
Offline Send Email
Jun 25, 2009
2:00 pm

I wasn't saying it is a bug just explaining how it happens. I was also explaining how to remove the previous entries and thus avoid having all the previous...
a10d0n
Offline Send Email
Jun 26, 2009
6:28 am

Correction. The unused IDs did disappear, but there are still multiple SYMBOLDEFs for the same symbol name, used on different pages.... mike...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Jun 29, 2009
8:09 am

Mike - This is caused by editing a symbol in the symbol editor, then placing a few symbols on the schematic, then further editing the symbol in the symbol...
Don Lucas
donlucas51
Offline Send Email
Jun 29, 2009
1:37 pm

I did what you suggested and it worked! I manually right-clicked/Replaced Symbol at every instance - and lo and behold, all extra definitions did go away!...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:53 pm

One way to go here is to add another check in the DRC: X Is the schematic design in sync with the libraries? giving you a list of symbols (may be empty) that...
Magnus Beischer
m_beischer
Offline Send Email
Jun 26, 2009
11:54 am

Somehow, after I got myself into this mess of having large number of different symbol IDs for the same symbol name, it is very difficult to clean up. I only...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:50 pm

Hi Don, Something is not right. I repeatedly replaced every "RES" symbol on each page of the schematic (3 pages affected), and every time I do this, I get 3...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:52 pm

I observed a different behavior. On every right click -Replace Symbol instance, in 2.7 a new ID was added, but the old ID never removed, even after all symbols...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:52 pm

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!--This file was written by TinyCAD Version 2.70.00 Build #228 Beta Release If you wish to view this file go to...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:50 pm

Please find attached one of my design files that has this problem. Symbol "RES" has multiple IDs - easy to see in text editor. I think, this started happening...
mkishinevsky
mkishinevsky@...
Send Email
Aug 26, 2009
3:50 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! UK. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help