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Re: Multiple SYMBOLDEFs problem

Please find attached one of my design files that has this problem.
Symbol "RES" has multiple IDs - easy to see in text editor. I think, this
started happening when I edited the symbol in the library (made pins shorter)
and tried to update symbols in the schematic. I think, every time I updated a
symbol in the schematic, TinyCAD created a new symbol definition.

It is very difficult to clean this up, because symbol IDs are not umque,
complete;y different symbols in the schemtic often share the same ID in
SYMBOLDEF section

Thanks.

Mike

--- In tinycad@..., "Don Lucas" <Don.Lucas@...> wrote:
>
> What version of TinyCAD are you using?
>
> The .dsn file is an ascii file containing XML statements. If there are
actually multiple definitions of a symbol in the design, then you should be able
to find it in the .dsn file by editing with text editor such as notepad. If you
locate such a problem, please send me a copy of the design file and any
information that you might have that would allow me to reproduce the problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don Lucas
>
>
> --- In tinycad@..., "mkishinevsky" <mkishinevsky@> wrote:
> >
> > I am struggling with a problem that schematic accumulates multiple
SYMBOLDEFs for the same symbol. It is especially dangerous because I changed pin
length of a symbol at some point, but both versions are still in the .dsn file.
As a result, sometimes pins get disconnected from wires, especially when I
copy/paste schematic to a different file.
> >
> > Is there a way to clean up?
> > The menu item "cleanup" does not exists in newer versions.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > mike
> >
>





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I am struggling with a problem that schematic accumulates multiple SYMBOLDEFs for the same symbol. It is especially dangerous because I changed pin length of...
mkishinevsky
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Jun 23, 2009
3:09 pm

What version of TinyCAD are you using? The .dsn file is an ascii file containing XML statements. If there are actually multiple definitions of a symbol in the...
Don Lucas
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Jun 23, 2009
4:00 pm

It is easy to create this situation in v2.60.01. If you enter a symbol from a library on to a schematic then go into the library/symbol editor and change it...
a10d0n
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Jun 24, 2009
4:57 pm

Phil - I don't see how this particular example can be considered to be a bug. You are describing normal and desireable behavior. Just because a symbol is...
Don Lucas
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Jun 25, 2009
2:00 pm

I wasn't saying it is a bug just explaining how it happens. I was also explaining how to remove the previous entries and thus avoid having all the previous...
a10d0n
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Jun 26, 2009
6:28 am

Correction. The unused IDs did disappear, but there are still multiple SYMBOLDEFs for the same symbol name, used on different pages.... mike...
mkishinevsky
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Jun 29, 2009
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Mike - This is caused by editing a symbol in the symbol editor, then placing a few symbols on the schematic, then further editing the symbol in the symbol...
Don Lucas
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Jun 29, 2009
1:37 pm

I did what you suggested and it worked! I manually right-clicked/Replaced Symbol at every instance - and lo and behold, all extra definitions did go away!...
mkishinevsky
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Aug 26, 2009
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One way to go here is to add another check in the DRC: X Is the schematic design in sync with the libraries? giving you a list of symbols (may be empty) that...
Magnus Beischer
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Jun 26, 2009
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Somehow, after I got myself into this mess of having large number of different symbol IDs for the same symbol name, it is very difficult to clean up. I only...
mkishinevsky
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Aug 26, 2009
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Hi Don, Something is not right. I repeatedly replaced every "RES" symbol on each page of the schematic (3 pages affected), and every time I do this, I get 3...
mkishinevsky
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Aug 26, 2009
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I observed a different behavior. On every right click -Replace Symbol instance, in 2.7 a new ID was added, but the old ID never removed, even after all symbols...
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Aug 26, 2009
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!--This file was written by TinyCAD Version 2.70.00 Build #228 Beta Release If you wish to view this file go to...
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Aug 26, 2009
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Please find attached one of my design files that has this problem. Symbol "RES" has multiple IDs - easy to see in text editor. I think, this started happening...
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