Oops Will, I should have said for a helical of course you spiral the wire fromm
bottom to top. (But of course it will not pack down to 1M whan not needed, Sorry
about that.
Regards.
Ron GW1HIN

--- In topband-helical@..., "william_northcote1970"
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> There is a website in the UK that does fibreglass rods that has appeared in
Radcom recently.  Could be useful to members if they need strong stand alone
mast poles for garden/mobile.
>
> http://www.engineered-composites.co.uk/products_rods_tube.php
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>

In the link from that well known downloader gateway site are PDF's of the
American homebrew magazine.

Sadly it folded in 2005 after 7 editions but there will be something in there
for QRP workers for the members on here.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4717230/HOMEBREWER_MAGAZINE_2003_Issues_1-7

Some of the issues went from being 50 pages to about 300 so there is a lot of
information in these files.

Will

2E0WHN

Hi will,
Please keep us informed as to your progress. Commercial vertical antennas, even
of the cheapest construction, cost an exorbitant amount of cash, so anything
that can be home-built is a bonus..
73S
RON gW1hin



--- In topband-helical@..., william Northcote
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> Well as fiberglass poles they do look good enough not only for masts but also
for construction.  But they sell in 6m lengths so building anything will leave a
load of cut offs.
>
> But as making a sturdy whip antenna? Why not.  Material make the antenna.  I
may order some and build one not only for top band but also for 6 metres as a
lightweight horizontal.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ronald Ellwood-Thompson <ronelltom@...>
> To: topband-helical@...
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 10:46:27
> Subject: [topband-helical] Re: For members in the UK
>
>
> Hi will,
> That brand looks expensive lol. On e-bay.co.uk there is a guy called
spratreader who sells 10M fibreglass poles which slide down to 1M (I think) at
£22 plus postage. They make excellent vertical antennas if you thread a lenth of
'Flexiweave' cable up the middle, connect the end to a Pl259 socket at the
bottom and a 10M loose wire soldered to the earthing ring,to act as a radial.
The whole thing packs away if needed very simply.
> Regards.
> Ron GW1HIN
>
> --- In topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk, "william_northcote1 970"
<william_northcote1 970@> wrote:
> >
> > There is a website in the UK that does fibreglass rods that has appeared in
Radcom recently.  Could be useful to members if they need strong stand alone
mast poles for garden/mobile.
> >
> > http://www.engineer ed-composites. co.uk/products_ rods_tube. php
> >
> > Will
> >
> > 2E0WHN
> >
>

Hi All.
I¡¦ve been a member of the site for some time now and have done a lot of reading
and not a lot of posting.... But I have a question ļ

I understand with a vertical antenna the bigger and the higher the coil the
better?
My idea is to use a length of soil pipe or similar as the former of the coil.
Now I know that¡¦s going to catch the wind so I¡¦ll probably use drain pipe as
the vertical section to help support the weight, plus this way I should be able
to attach a vertical whip section to top it off.

Now for the Question...
What is the ultimate wire length to construct a top band vertical antenna?
I currently have 146¡¨ of wire and a similar counter poise running down the back
of the gardens in my street ļ

Should I aim to use a similar length of wire or should it be shorter ???

Thanks Andy
2e0bay

--- In topband-helical@..., "m3iqq" <sireth@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All.
> I¡¦ve been a member of the site for some time now and have done a lot of
reading and not a lot of posting.... But I have a question ļ
>
> What is the ultimate wire length to construct a top band vertical antenna?
> I currently have 146¡¨ of wire and a similar counter poise running down the
back of the gardens in my street ļ
>
> Should I aim to use a similar length of wire or should it be shorter ???
>
> Thanks Andy
> 2e0bay
>

Hi Andy,
         I always use the formula of 468 divided by the frequency in mhz to give
the length of a half wave antenna.  This would equate to 234 divided by the
frequency in mhz to give the length of wire needed for a quarter wave antenna.

   The question is, where do you want the antenna to be resonant ?  If like
myself, you want an antenna for working in the " 160m DX Window "  , then the
wire length would need to be around 126 & a half feet  for the vertical element
& the same for a counterpoise.

  Hope this helps.

  Regards, Phil.   M0VEY

Hi,

As a new member of this group I am enjoying the ideas and am encouraged that
some have had success with helical antennas.  I, like many hams, have limited
space and have therefore thought a lot about this approach to getting on the
air.

I am curious to know if anyone here has considered or experimented with helical
vertical dipoles.  I am experimenting with this right now on 80m and 40m.  I
have taken two 5ft sections of pvc pipe and wrapped on each section the
equivalent 1/4 wave(1/2 wave length of wire)leg of a dipole, feeding the two
sections in the middle with twin lead.  The twin lead is brought out 90 degrees
from the middle of the antenna to minimize imbalance.

I realize that the shorter the elements the less efficient.  However, running
any kind of counterpoise here is difficult, and I figured that perhaps the short
elements might be compensated somewhat by using a vertical dipole to reduce some
of the ground losses compared to those of a monopole with counterpoise.

Any comments on this?

Thanks,
Marlin, kc0o

Hi,
your experiments will be of great interest to the likes of us who live in a
modern house. (Read for that, a miniscule gardem lol). I bought a 10M pole for
£22 from spratreader on e-bay. The only problem is that it is tapered (in order
to collapse) therefore the amount of wire it takes is reduced by this. I have a
vertical from Sandpiper wh I think are first class and if your experiments work,
I will order 10 metres woth. Could you please let me know the diameter of pole
used.
Many. many thanks.
Ron GW1HIN


--- In topband-helical@..., "m0vey" <m0vey@...> wrote:
>
>   Good to see that there is some interest with using a Fishing Pole type
antenna. I posted some pics on this site back in May of the
> " M0VEY Portable / Mobile antenna. Message 87  .
>
> 
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/topband-helical/photos/album/1678474428/pic/lis\
t
>
>   I have also made a 10m fishing pole antenna complete with a DC-Grounded
matching transformer to multiband the antenna & hopefully reduce background
noise level.
>
>   This antenna is still work in progress & I will post more details & pics
when I develop the antenna more . I still have different wire lengths to
experiment with. This sort of antenna should work well with around 120' of wire
, although it is my intention to try & make it work to some extent using 66' of
wire . This would be 33' vertical & 33' horizontal.
>
>   I will post more pics & a message when I have chance to do so . I purchased
my 10m Fishing Pole from a company called " Sandpiper " . I purchased the pole
at a radio rally & I think I paid £20   for it .
>
>    I also purchased a 100m roll of 1mm pvc coated multi stranded wire to make
the antenna element. This should be lighter than the 1.5mm wire that I would
traditionally use for Base antennas. Here, I sourced the wire locally from a
firm called " Kingston Cables " . They are based in Willerby, on the outskirts
of Hull.
>
>   Regards to all & Happy Homebrewing.
>
>   M0VEY    Group Owner .
>

--- In topband-helical@..., "m0vey" <m0vey@...> wrote:
>
> --- In topband-helical@..., "m3iqq" <sireth@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All.
> > I¡¦ve been a member of the site for some time now and have done a lot of
reading and not a lot of posting.... But I have a question ļ
> >
> > What is the ultimate wire length to construct a top band vertical antenna?
> > I currently have 146¡¨ of wire and a similar counter poise running down the
back of the gardens in my street ļ
> >
> > Should I aim to use a similar length of wire or should it be shorter ???
> >
> > Thanks Andy
> > 2e0bay
> >
>
> Hi Andy,
>         I always use the formula of 468 divided by the frequency in mhz to
give the length of a half wave antenna.  This would equate to 234 divided by the
frequency in mhz to give the length of wire needed for a quarter wave antenna.
>
>   The question is, where do you want the antenna to be resonant ?  If like
myself, you want an antenna for working in the " 160m DX Window "  , then the
wire length would need to be around 126 & a half feet  for the vertical element
& the same for a counterpoise.
>
>  Hope this helps.
>
>  Regards, Phil.   M0VEY
>


Hi,
Thanks for the info, 126 feet sounds good to me.
The next question is will the size of the coil or its location up the mast make
any difference?
Thanks andy

> Hi,
> Thanks for the info, 126 feet sounds good to me.
> The next question is will the size of the coil or its location up the mast
make any difference?
> Thanks andy
>


Hi Andy,
         I would say the size of the coil & its location up the mast are open to
experiment & perhaps a case of " suck it & see " .

I've had my own helical coil atop a 40' mast & found it favoured DX & Long Haul,
over shorter conditions.

    I've also tried with a Helical Coil at the base of the mast & the rest of the
antenna in an " Inverted L " style & found that worked better for " Inter G "  .

   If you look at some of the pics in the photo section of this site, you may get
an idea of the spacing that I use ( size of a pencil ) & of course, the length
of the former depends on how much wire is going on it, space used & diameter.

   On a personal note, I have used 2 inch formers with a good degree of success.
I would not want to use anything less than a 1 & half inch former.

   Hope this helps & let us know your progress.

  Regards,
             Phil.    M0VEY   .

A simple design on a vertical of which can be made in one day?

http://www.k6mm.com/antennas/160M-QST.pdf

Could be a nice winter project  for some of you.

Will

2E0WHN

--- In topband-helical@..., "william_northcote1970"
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> A simple design on a vertical of which can be made in one day?
>
> http://www.k6mm.com/antennas/160M-QST.pdf
>
> Could be a nice winter project  for some of you.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>

Hi Will,
Thank you for this article, It is a simple idea just asking to be tried out.
Many Thanks.
Ron (GW1HIN)


--- In topband-helical@..., "william_northcote1970"
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> A simple design on a vertical of which can be made in one day?
>
> http://www.k6mm.com/antennas/160M-QST.pdf
>
> Could be a nice winter project  for some of you.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>

Hi All

Thanks for all the info and advice received so far...

From the pictures I have just uploaded you will see that the Topband Helical is
up in the air....(albeit with some planning issues over the last week

No sooner had the Helical been put up I received a letter from the local
planning authority... Apparently an anonymous complaint from a neighbour!!!

The site was inspected yesterday and given the thumbs up by the planning Dept
... in fact they said that it could go up by another 2m without the need for
formal planning (no higher that 60cm above the roof line is fine).. So you can
guess what the next job is...

The Ground system is getting better... at the moment 6 x 5ft Earth rods + 20m of
Chicken wire laid down under the patio surround.

We have a terrible noise problem (like many on 160m) and the inclusion of the
rotatable Wellbrook receiving loop was a welcome additon to the station during
the week.... Noise levels now struggling to reach 2 - 3 'S' Points and signals
from everywhere coining in 9+.. I just have to work them now.

I could hear most stations on the sked last night and most were up above S9 but
I was too busy to chat..

Catch you all soon

Brian - GW4DVB

Hi,
Having become foul of planning people here in Aberystwyth, can you give more
building details. The photos are a bit too far away for details to be noticed.
many thanks.
Ron GW1HIN


--- In topband-helical@..., "Brian" <gw4dvb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Thanks for all the info and advice received so far...
>
> From the pictures I have just uploaded you will see that the Topband Helical
is up in the air....(albeit with some planning issues over the last week
>
> No sooner had the Helical been put up I received a letter from the local
planning authority... Apparently an anonymous complaint from a neighbour!!!
>
> The site was inspected yesterday and given the thumbs up by the planning Dept
... in fact they said that it could go up by another 2m without the need for
formal planning (no higher that 60cm above the roof line is fine).. So you can
guess what the next job is...
>
> The Ground system is getting better... at the moment 6 x 5ft Earth rods + 20m
of Chicken wire laid down under the patio surround.
>
> We have a terrible noise problem (like many on 160m) and the inclusion of the
rotatable Wellbrook receiving loop was a welcome additon to the station during
the week.... Noise levels now struggling to reach 2 - 3 'S' Points and signals
from everywhere coining in 9+.. I just have to work them now.
>
> I could hear most stations on the sked last night and most were up above S9
but I was too busy to chat..
>
> Catch you all soon
>
> Brian - GW4DVB
>

hi a\ll,
I get the impression from those planning notes, that no antenna shall be higher
than 100 cm in height. if this is correct then we are all stuffed when it comes
to an 80M antenna.
73s.
Ron GW1HIN


--- In topband-helical@..., william Northcote
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> With local councils in England and Wales the one thing they have in common is
they do not know with part of the body they are talking from.
>
> For instance I had that turned up from a "complaint" and quoted a leaflet from
which he read as gospel.  Turns out he was using the wrong one.  The one he used
has a blue cover and a satellite dish on it.  That is for SHF receive only (sky
TV if you are not thinking straight)
>
> What to do is to print this one off from the link and say that the leaflet
they have (if they have the SHF leaflet tell them it is wrong and do forth)
>
> http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20082362_en.pdf
>
> This is the one for MF, HF, VHF and UHF.
>
> Also throw in a Euro human rights law.  One that allows "cross border
communication".  See how well they fluster when that is mentioned.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: uk_microguy <ronelltom@...>
> To: topband-helical@...
> Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2009 17:28:44
> Subject: [topband-helical] Re: 1972 - Not worked yet
>
>
> Hi,
> Having become foul of planning people here in Aberystwyth, can you give more
building details. The photos are a bit too far away for details to be noticed.
> many thanks.
> Ron GW1HIN
>
> --- In topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk, "Brian" <gw4dvb@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Thanks for all the info and advice received so far...
> >
> > From the pictures I have just uploaded you will see that the Topband Helical
is up in the air....(albeit with some planning issues over the last week
> >
> > No sooner had the Helical been put up I received a letter from the local
planning authority... Apparently an anonymous complaint from a neighbour!!!
> >
> > The site was inspected yesterday and given the thumbs up by the planning
Dept ... in fact they said that it could go up by another 2m without the need
for formal planning (no higher that 60cm above the roof line is fine).. So you
can guess what the next job is...
> >
> > The Ground system is getting better... at the moment 6 x 5ft Earth rods +
20m of Chicken wire laid down under the patio surround.
> >
> > We have a terrible noise problem (like many on 160m) and the inclusion of
the rotatable Wellbrook receiving loop was a welcome additon to the station
during the week.... Noise levels now struggling to reach 2 - 3 'S' Points and
signals from everywhere coining in 9+.. I just have to work them now.
> >
> > I could hear most stations on the sked last night and most were up above S9
but I was too busy to chat..
> >
> > Catch you all soon
> >
> > Brian - GW4DVB
> >
>

The document that the Planning Officer used for this location is contained on
this page.

Apparantly this has been updated and is goig to go through another update in
line with the Digital Changeover.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1995/Uksi_19950418_en_4.htm

Cheers

Brian - GW4DVB

--- In topband-helical@..., "uk_microguy" <ronelltom@...> wrote:
>
> hi a\ll,
> I get the impression from those planning notes, that no antenna shall be
higher than 100 cm in height. if this is correct then we are all stuffed when it
comes to an 80M antenna.
> 73s.
> Ron GW1HIN
>
>
> --- In topband-helical@..., william Northcote
<william_northcote1970@> wrote:
> >
> > With local councils in England and Wales the one thing they have in common
is they do not know with part of the body they are talking from.
> >
> > For instance I had that turned up from a "complaint" and quoted a leaflet
from which he read as gospel.  Turns out he was using the wrong one.  The one he
used has a blue cover and a satellite dish on it.  That is for SHF receive only
(sky TV if you are not thinking straight)
> >
> > What to do is to print this one off from the link and say that the leaflet
they have (if they have the SHF leaflet tell them it is wrong and do forth)
> >
> > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20082362_en.pdf
> >
> > This is the one for MF, HF, VHF and UHF.
> >
> > Also throw in a Euro human rights law.  One that allows "cross border
communication".  See how well they fluster when that is mentioned.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > 2E0WHN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: uk_microguy <ronelltom@>
> > To: topband-helical@...
> > Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2009 17:28:44
> > Subject: [topband-helical] Re: 1972 - Not worked yet
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Having become foul of planning people here in Aberystwyth, can you give more
building details. The photos are a bit too far away for details to be noticed.
> > many thanks.
> > Ron GW1HIN
> >
> > --- In topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk, "Brian" <gw4dvb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the info and advice received so far...
> > >
> > > From the pictures I have just uploaded you will see that the Topband
Helical is up in the air....(albeit with some planning issues over the last week
> > >
> > > No sooner had the Helical been put up I received a letter from the local
planning authority... Apparently an anonymous complaint from a neighbour!!!
> > >
> > > The site was inspected yesterday and given the thumbs up by the planning
Dept ... in fact they said that it could go up by another 2m without the need
for formal planning (no higher that 60cm above the roof line is fine).. So you
can guess what the next job is...
> > >
> > > The Ground system is getting better... at the moment 6 x 5ft Earth rods +
20m of Chicken wire laid down under the patio surround.
> > >
> > > We have a terrible noise problem (like many on 160m) and the inclusion of
the rotatable Wellbrook receiving loop was a welcome additon to the station
during the week.... Noise levels now struggling to reach 2 - 3 'S' Points and
signals from everywhere coining in 9+.. I just have to work them now.
> > >
> > > I could hear most stations on the sked last night and most were up above
S9 but I was too busy to chat..
> > >
> > > Catch you all soon
> > >
> > > Brian - GW4DVB
> > >
> >
>

Hi

I have added a few more pictures of the QTH

Double storey and about 18ft ground to the guttering.

There do seem to be a number of different interpretations on the Building Regs
and the local authority seem to work to the 60cm be the maximum height above the
ridge of the property before enforcing Planning Permission.

OK on wire antennas.. The planning guy didn't seem to worry about the wire - It
seemed to fit into the catagory of projecting feed elements (see Below).. It
seems to be the supporting pole height that is the restricted part.

The 100cm rules only applies if there is only one antenna attached to the
building... this includes dishes and TV antenna's.

An absolute minefield!!!!

Cheers


Brian

****************************************

For houses and buildings up to 15 metres high.
Unless your home is in a designated area, you do not need to
apply for planning permission to install an antenna on your
property, as long as:

• there will be no more than two antennas on the property
overall (these may be on the front or back of the building, on
the roof, attached to the chimney or in the garden);

• if you are installing a single antenna, it is not more than 100
centimetres in any linear dimension2 (not including any projecting  feed
elements, reinforcing rim, mounting and brackets);

• if you are installing two antennas, one is not more than
100 centimetres in any linear dimension, and the other
is not more than 60 centimetres in any linear dimension
(not including any projecting feed element, reinforcing rim,
mounting and brackets);

• the cubic capacity of each individual is not more than 35 litres;

• an antenna fitted onto a chimney stack is not more than
60 centimetres and does not stick out above the chimney; and

• an antenna mounted on the roof only sticks out above the
roof when there is a chimney stack. In this case, the antenna
should not stick out more than 60 centimetres above the
highest part of the roof or above the highest part of the
chimney stack, whichever is lower.

************************************





  --- In topband-helical@..., william Northcote
<william_northcote1970@...> wrote:
>
> Only for a digital antenna.  Wire antennas are exempt.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: uk_microguy <ronelltom@...>
> To: topband-helical@...
> Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2009 21:46:18
> Subject: [topband-helical] Re: 1972 - Not worked yet
>
>
> hi a\ll,
> I get the impression from those planning notes, that no antenna shall be
higher than 100 cm in height. if this is correct then we are all stuffed when it
comes to an 80M antenna.
> 73s.
> Ron GW1HIN
>
> --- In topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk, william Northcote
<william_northcote1 970@> wrote:
> >
> > With local councils in England and Wales the one thing they have in common
is they do not know with part of the body they are talking from.
> >
> > For instance I had that turned up from a "complaint" and quoted a leaflet
from which he read as gospel.  Turns out he was using the wrong one.  The one he
used has a blue cover and a satellite dish on it.  That is for SHF receive only
(sky TV if you are not thinking straight)
> >
> > What to do is to print this one off from the link and say that the leaflet
they have (if they have the SHF leaflet tell them it is wrong and do forth)
> >
> > http://www.opsi. gov.uk/si/ si2008/pdf/ uksi_20082362_ en.pdf
> >
> > This is the one for MF, HF, VHF and UHF.
> >
> > Also throw in a Euro human rights law.  One that allows "cross border
communication" .  See how well they fluster when that is mentioned.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > 2E0WHN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: uk_microguy <ronelltom@ ..>
> > To: topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk
> > Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2009 17:28:44
> > Subject: [topband-helical] Re: 1972 - Not worked yet
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Having become foul of planning people here in Aberystwyth, can you give more
building details. The photos are a bit too far away for details to be noticed.
> > many thanks.
> > Ron GW1HIN
> >
> > --- In topband-helical@ yahoogroups. co.uk, "Brian" <gw4dvb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the info and advice received so far...
> > >
> > > From the pictures I have just uploaded you will see that the Topband
Helical is up in the air....(albeit with some planning issues over the last week
> > >
> > > No sooner had the Helical been put up I received a letter from the local
planning authority... Apparently an anonymous complaint from a neighbour!!!
> > >
> > > The site was inspected yesterday and given the thumbs up by the planning
Dept ... in fact they said that it could go up by another 2m without the need
for formal planning (no higher that 60cm above the roof line is fine).. So you
can guess what the next job is...
> > >
> > > The Ground system is getting better... at the moment 6 x 5ft Earth rods +
20m of Chicken wire laid down under the patio surround.
> > >
> > > We have a terrible noise problem (like many on 160m) and the inclusion of
the rotatable Wellbrook receiving loop was a welcome additon to the station
during the week.... Noise levels now struggling to reach 2 - 3 'S' Points and
signals from everywhere coining in 9+.. I just have to work them now.
> > >
> > > I could hear most stations on the sked last night and most were up above
S9 but I was too busy to chat..
> > >
> > > Catch you all soon
> > >
> > > Brian - GW4DVB
> > >
> >
>

Has anyone made a vertical antenna for topband using a slinky coil?

Been considering it over the last few days and was thinking it may cut a few
corners as to the winding on the vertical.

Will

2E0WHN

Hi Will,
I tried usung slinkies, but they rusted up pretty quickly. I found that
sparaying them with varnish helped but of course the insides of the coil where
the varnish missed went rusry. One idea is to tie a piece if string to to one
end and drop the whole slinky into the tin of warnish and then slowly withdraw
the string opening up the slinky and then hanging it somewhere to dry. if you
put Slinky Antenna into Google, there are lots of various tricks you can try.
73s.
Ron GW1HIN



-- In topband-helical@..., "william" <william_northcote1970@...>
wrote:
>
> Has anyone made a vertical antenna for topband using a slinky coil?
>
> Been considering it over the last few days and was thinking it may cut a few
corners as to the winding on the vertical.
>
> Will
>
> 2E0WHN
>

Hi all,
        next month on November 14th sees the annual RSGB Club Calls Contest. Full
details here:

   http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/rules/2009/rclubcalls.shtml

This would be a great time to test those newly built antennas out.

As always, any members of the group can find me most evenings around 6.30pm on
1.972 mhz.

Regards,
           Phil.   M0VEY

RSGB Club Calls Contest 2009

The aim of this event is to encourage contacts between Affiliated Societies, to
give their callsigns an airing and to encourage new licensees to operate under
appropriate supervision.


The general rules apply to this contest

Date: Saturday 14th November 2009

Time: 2000 - 2300 UTC

Freqs: 1870-1990 kHz

Mode: SSB

Exchange: RS + Serial No+ other data

1. Eligible Entrants: All licensed amateurs and SWLs in the UK.

2. Exchange: RS + serial number + name of Club + "Club Station", "Club Member"
or "No Club", as appropriate. NB: the name of the club must be sent in full. It
must not be sent as initials. A Club Station must use a callsign which is
specifically issued to a Club or Society which is affiliated to the RSGB. Use of
special club station prefixes such as GX etc by club stations is allowed in this
event.

3. Scoring: 3 points per contact, plus bonuses of 5 points for contacts with any
club members, and 25 points for contacts with any Club
Station.

4. Awards:
The Ariel Trophy to the leading Club station.
Certificates to the leading club, individual club and non-club member.
The David Hill, G4IQM, Memorial Trophy will be awarded to the club having the
highest aggregate score of five club members operating within a 30 mile radius
of the club meeting place.

5. E-mail logs: should be sent to: club.calls.logs@...

Example of Club Calls Contest log.

Further information regarding the Cabrillo Format

Hi All,
          just another reminder that Saturday 14th November sees the annual RSGB
Club Calls Contest taking place. More info below.


   http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/rules/2009/rclubcalls.shtml


  This is a great chance to test out those new homebrew helicals out.
Eligible Entrants: All licensed amateurs in the UK.

   Regards to all & hope your all having fun on 160m .

  My local monitor/meet up frequency of 1.972 has been quite active most nights
recentley.

   Regards,
            Phil.   M0VEY

Does anyone know if a computer logging program has been sorted out for this
contest? If not, how do others get round this n still computer log?

Cheers

Mark
M0MJH

m0vey wrote:
>   
>         Hi All,
>          just another reminder that Saturday 14th November sees the annual
RSGB Club Calls Contest taking place. More info below.
>  http://www.rsgbcc. org/hf/rules/ 2009/rclubcalls. shtml
> This is a great chance to test out those new homebrew helicals out.
> Eligible Entrants: All licensed amateurs in the UK.
> Regards to all & hope your all having fun on 160m .
> My local monitor/meet up frequency of 1.972 has been quite active most nights
recentley.
> Regards,
>            Phil.   M0VEY
>

Hi Mark,
         if you check the link below, it explains about how to submit logs for
this contest.


http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/information/cabrillo.shtml

There are also various examples on the page.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
          Phil.  M0VEY

Well it claims to work and maybe it can.  Looking at this it seems to be a large
sheet of metal wrapped round a PVC pipe.

Now the question is will this actually do top band 160 if made bigger?  Maybe. 
Thinking the tuning coil will have to be if not more large as it is in the
picture and the sheet will have to be doubled.

So what are your views as antenna builders of top band regarding this to be made
for 160?

Link to the site in the short url

http://alturl.com/g3jf

Will

2E0WHN