complete rehab is what id call it dan! i started out with just 6 reptiles
now ive got 10 and still want to expand my collection any one now ive a
cheap mansion up for sale?? :D

Nick


>From: Debbie or Dan Fryer <debndan_uk@...>
>Reply-To: ukreptiles@...
>To: ukreptiles@...
>Subject: Re: [UK Reptiles] New snake New Member....Hello
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:57 -0800 (PST)
>
>I would warn her now that this hobby is more addictive
>than crack!! I think it's fair to say we all started
>off with just the one and within a year or so were in
>desperate need of detox after turning the house into a
>zoo! lol
>Godd luck with the books and the websites.
>Most importantly have fun and enjoy your new little
>friend.
>Dan
>
>
>--- ukscanking <ukscanking@...> wrote:
> > Hi Dan
> >
> > I have ordered some books from the library, they
> > should be here in
> > the next two weeks. I live in the sticks so may take
> > some time lol.
> > Now if it was Mills and Boone I wanted that would be
> > another story.
> >
> > OK, Substrate I only got a small bag so can change
> > that to aspen this
> > week, I will also get a thermostat this week from
> > Watermarque, they
> > sellthem and they are not too expensive. My tank has
> > a mesh top which
> > is secured by a clip. He has tried to escape but its
> > a proper snake
> > tank so he wont be able to, he said in hope lol.
> > Thanks for the links and the replies greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Will let you know what I get this weekend. My wife
> > always gets a
> > nervous look on her face when I go to the reptile
> > shop.....cant think
> > why ;)
> >
> > Regards
> > Den
> > --- In ukreptiles@..., Debbie or Dan
> > Fryer
> > <debndan_uk@y...> wrote:
> > > Ok first thing, that substrate. Some people use
> > sand
> > > and some use corn cob with out any problems -
> > however,
> > > personally i would take it off that and get it
> > onto
> > > something like aspen or even at a push small beech
> > > chips. If you wish you could even use paper towel
> > or
> > > newspaper although these don't look as nice. The
> > > reason i would go away from corn cob and
> > definately
> > > sand is that it has a tendency to get between the
> > > belly scales and cause sore's and, later on,
> > > infections. However if you have bags of this stuff
> > > then use it but keep an eye on the underside of
> > your
> > > snake and make sure that nothing starts to
> > develop.
> > > Next i am afraid you are going to HAVE TO spend
> > money
> > > again and get a thermostat. This will control the
> > > temps all year round. It is very important to get
> > one
> > > of these and a good thermometer ASAP. Problems
> > WILL
> > > occur if the temps aren't monitored.
> > > Finally i am a big one for pointing people in the
> > > right direction withou telling them the answer. So
> > i
> > > suggest that while you are buying the above you
> > get
> > > yourself a cornsnake book aswell so you can learn
> > some
> > > more. There are allso literally millions of
> > websites
> > > out there about cornsnakes although some are far
> > from
> > > perfect they will get you started. Your new pet is
> > > fairly resillient so a few mistakes won't be
> > punished
> > > too badly but it is important to get out there and
> > > start hunting for as much info as possible.
> > > Unfortunately there are no UK groups that are busy
> > > anymore despite constant attempts to revive them
> > so
> > > your best bet is to join one of the forums we
> > have.
> > > There are a few of these and although they can get
> > > quite firey at times they are a fantastic source
> > of
> > > information. If you do a search for livefood.com
> > > forums you will find a large one, there is also
> > c-view
> > > media forums which although very political and
> > full of
> > > arguments is IMO better than livefood. There are
> > > others like reptile crazy (if that's what it is
> > still
> > > called) and one other springs to mind,
> > > www.herpetologyexchange.com although this is fast
> > > becoming a more specialised forum. Happy hunting
> > and
> > > sorry for the length of this reply.
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- ukscanking <ukscanking@b...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Dan
> > > >
> > > > I know, I dont think he had a clue about snakes
> > > > other than the fact
> > > > he sells them. It looks healthy enough and has a
> > > > long tapering tail,
> > > > could possibly be a male.
> > > >
> > > > OK in list order lol
> > > >
> > > > I have Mais as substrate
> > > > (http://www.jrs.de/jrs/uk/tierhyg/ch_mais.htm)
> > > > A heat mat under one end and nothing under the
> > > > other. A hide undere
> > > > both ends cold and hot end and also on in the
> > > > middle. Water bowl from
> > > > the pics you can see is quite big and he gets in
> > it
> > > > no problem. I fed
> > > > him a pinkie last night which had gone by this
> > > > morning. The shop
> > > > owner said he normally eats 2 a week. To be
> > > > perfectly honest I have
> > > > no idea of the temp other than the fact there is
> > a
> > > > heat mat under the
> > > > tank, I will get a thermometer and let you know.
> > The
> > > > tank is 2 foot
> > > > by one foot.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks once again Dan greatly appreciated
> > > >
> > > > Den
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukreptiles@..., Debbie or
> > Dan
> > > > Fryer
> > > > <debndan_uk@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Don't know what happened yesterday but the
> > link
> > > > worked
> > > > > this time??
> > > > > I will be honest now, the guy in the shop
> > > > obviously
> > > > > doesn't know what he is doing as it is both
> > easy
> > > > (for
> > > > > those that know) and basic to sex a corn
> > snake. As
> > > > a
> > > > > result can you let us know what setup you
> > > > currently
> > > > > are using for the little guy. By this i mean
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > have on the vivarium(tank) floor(substrate),
> > what
> > > > temp
> > > > > you have the viv at (both hot and cool) and
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > are going to be feeding it. Is the water bowl
> > big
> > > > > enough for the snake to fit in? Once we get
> > all
> > > > these
> > > > > sorted you should be able to keep your snake
> > happy
> > > > for
> > > > > many years.
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- ukscanking <ukscanking@b...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks for the reply.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The chap in the shop had no idea whatsoever
> > > > about
> > > > > > the sex of it. I
> > > > > > did ask but he said you cannot tell till its
> > at
> > > > > > least 18 months old.
> > > > > > I have mada a folder on here under my name
> > > > Dennis
> > > > > > Patterson so you
> > > > > > hopefully wil be able to see the pics I have
> > > > taken.
> > > > > > Sorry about the
> > > > > > link thought it may work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kindest regards and your help and advice is
> > > > greatly
> > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Den
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In ukreptiles@..., Debbie
> > or
> > > > Dan
> > > > > > Fryer
> > > > > > <debndan_uk@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi and welcome.
> > > > > > > Handling it will be ok in a few days. If
> > it
> > > > hasn't
> > > > > > > been handled much before it will probably
> > bite
> > > > but
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > that size it allways makes me laugh how
> > big
> > > > and
> > > > > > strong
> > > > > > > they think they are when in reality they
> > > > barely
> > > > > > break
> > > > > > > the skin. Start of with 5 mins or so a
> > couple
> > > > of
> > > > > > times
> > > > > > > a day and as you both get used to each
> > other
> > > > make
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > longer as you go.
> > > > > > > Corn snakes are nearly allways calm
> > tempered
> > > > as
> > > > > > adults
> > > > > > > so you wont have to worry about it growing
> > up
> > > > with
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > temper.
> > > > > > > You can sex corns from birth in various
> > ways,
> > > > > > however
> > > > > > > none of these are really for beginners.
> > You
> > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > better off taking it back to the shop and
> > > > asking
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > to sex it for you.
> > > > > > > Unfortunately the site you linked to is a
> > > > members
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > so access is restricted. There is a photo
> > > > section
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the home page of the group where you can
> > > > upload
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > pic.
> > > > > > > Hope that helped a bit
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- ukscanking <ukscanking@b...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I have just bought a Cornsnake, maroon
> > > > stripes
> > > > > > > > and he/she is lovely. The shop owner
> > said
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > the batch he had were very jumpy as they
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > never been handled. They were born in
> > June
> > > > 2003.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I bought it today, when is best to start
> > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > > it, will it ever be tame as he/she is a
> > > > little
> > > > > > > > older?
> > > > > > > > Its about 15 inches long at present and
> > > > quite
> > > > > > > > thin and very lively. When can I tell
> > the
> > > > sex
> > > > > > > > of it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks Den
> > > > > > > > (Somerset UK)
> > > > > > > > Here are some pics of it, hope you dont
> > mind
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=79649151905
> > > > > > > >
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