Srjda Trifkovic caught Dinesh D'Souza lying in a radio debate yesterday!
D'Souza has been claiming that Islam is not a hostile religion, and yet
Dr. Trifkovic's question revealed that D'Souza HASN'T EVEN READ the
Koran, as he claimed.

Such is the honesty of the defenders of Islam. Please note that Mr.
D'Souza was forced a few years ago to retract passage of one of his
books, which were also knowingly dishonest, as documented here:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/003112.html

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Excerpt:

TRIFKOVIC: Have you ever actually read the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: Of course I have.

TRIFKOVIC: Do you know how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: They are... er... they are not arranged in any
chronological order... er... [pause] and... er... [pause] and so I
quote in my book both the violent and...

TRIFKOVIC: Just tell me how ARE they arranged.

D'SOUZA: The other point...

TRIFKOVIC: Can you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: ... right. You can't just call...

TRIFKOVIC: Why don't you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

HENNEN: OK, one at a time here; your question for Dinesh,
Serge, is?

TRIFKOVIC: In what order are the Suras arranged in the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: [long silence] I really don't know what you mean by
that. When you say "in what order" then... err... [pause] there...

TRIFKOVIC: ... an interlocutor who tries to pass authoritative
judgments on the subject is refusing to tell me how are the Suras and
the verses of the Kuran arranged. They happen to be arranged by SIZE,
from short to long!

[The interview goes on for another 10 minutes or so]

"Hot Talk with Scott Hennen" http://www.wday.com/hottalk/
Debate Trifkovic - D'Souza
Live, Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:07 CST (Partial verbatim transcript)

[...]

TRIFKOVIC: The problem with his book is primarily that Dinesh
denounces me and my friend Robert Spencer for writing about Islam the
way we do. What is truly remarkable for an intellectual is that he
does not do so on the basis of any failure on our part to offer
empirical evidence for our fundamental thesis - which is that Islam
is inherently aggressive, racist, violent, and intolerant - but
rather that this shouldn't be allowed to be published, because it
undermines the possibility of establishing some mythical alliance
with the conservative Muslims. The problem there is that a
conservative Muslim is obviously a person inherently opposed to any
rationalistic revision of the Kuran or the Sunna, or any
reinterpretation of Islam in the way that would enable it to be
reformed. What we have is a self-proclaimed "conservative," here in
the United States, acting in exactly the same way as... that reminds
me of my youth under communism in Tito's Yugoslavia, denouncing a
certain approach to a subject purely on the grounds of its alleged
ideological unacceptability. He uses the term "Islamophobia" - which
is a classic term invented by the Race Relations Industry, by the
very people of the Left that he seeks to denounce. Once you subscribe
to the term "Islamophobia" all debates about Islam cease, because the
only valid definition of "Islamophobia" is the one offered by those
people he blames for 9-11!

D'SOUZA: One of the problems here is a little bit of paranoia.
These guys, Spencer, Serge, have been running around basically saying
I am trying to silence them, whereas all I am doing is disagreeing
with them. In my book I say this: we can't win the War on Terror
without driving a wedge between the radical Muslims and the
traditional Muslims... There are many Muslims who are very different
from the stereotypical Muslim that Serge and Spencer feature in their
work. My point is simply this: ultimately I think that we have to
draw traditional Muslims away from radical Islam, because the radical
Muslims are fishing in the pool of traditional Islam. So for this
reason I think that these attacks on Islam - the Koran [sic!] is a
gospel of violence, Mohammed [sic!] is the inventor of terrorism -
they are not just tactically foolish, they are historically wrong
because Islam has been around for thirteen hundred years, Islam
radicalism was invented in the 1920s, and came to power in 1979. How
can we blame the Prophet Mohammad for things that Khomeini and Bin
Laden are saying, that are very new. Historian Bernard Lewis points
out that radical Islam is a radical break with traditional Islam.
Never before have Muslim mullahs, or clergymen, ever ruled a Muslim
country. All Muslim countries have been ruled by non-clergymen until
Khomeini. So I think the flaw we see in this work and in the
Islamophobic literature is that it tries to link the early centuries
of Islam. It cherry-picks the Koran and finds all the violent
passages, leaves out all the peaceful passages, and then basically
concedes to Bin Laden that he is the true Muslim, that his reading of
the Koran is correct, and it pushes the traditional Muslims towards
the radical camp by denouncing their religion. Then we complain all
these traditional Muslims [indistinct] ... by denouncing Islam itself.

TRIFKOVIC: This is really rich. First of all, to claim that the
Kuran is a pacifist tract...

D'SOUZA: I didn't say it's a pacifist tract.

TRIFKOVIC: Well, you do say that people like Spencer and I pick
and choose. Have you actually read the Kuran? Have you ever actually
read the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: Of course I have.

TRIFKOVIC: Do you know how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: They are... er... they are not arranged in any
chronological order... er... [pause] and... er... [pause] and so I
quote in my book both the violent and...

TRIFKOVIC: Just tell me how ARE they arranged.

D'SOUZA: The other point...

TRIFKOVIC: Can you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: ... right. You can't just call...

TRIFKOVIC: Why don't you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

HENNEN: OK, one at a time here; your question for Dinesh,
Serge, is?

TRIFKOVIC: In what order are the Suras arranged in the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: [long silence] I really don't know what you mean by
that. When you say "in what order" then... err... [pause] there...

TRIFKOVIC: ... an interlocutor who tries to pass authoritative
judgments on the subject is refusing to tell me how are the Suras and
the verses of the Kuran arranged. They happen to be arranged by SIZE,
from short to long!

[The interview goes on for another 10 minutes or so]




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