i've also found out that there are 2 second gaps between each song on
all 3 cds..which is terrible considering they're live albums!
after all this, i definately won't be buying the boxset..it's a
shoddily produced product and not worthy of association with Joy
Division.

if you want a pic of the boxset, go here:
http://members.aol.com/lwtua/refrac.htm


--- In unknownpleasures@..., boy_in_eyeliner
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> virtually none, due to liscensing problems..thats why there's been
> all this mixup over the new boxset.
>
> you're best of going to a record/cd fair and getting a bootleg cd
of
> the show...it's one of the most bootleged of all j/d gigs, so you'd
> have no trouble finding a bootleg paradiso cd at a cd fair.
>
> plus some people (collectors who have many jd bootleg cds) over at
> www.joydiv.com have actually said that certain paradiso bootleg cds
> have better sound qaulity than the 'official' paradiso cd from the
> new boxset!
>
>
> --- In unknownpleasures@..., Julijana Zitnjak
> <jzitnjak@y...> wrote:
> > What are the chances of only Paradiso being released then ?
> > Kadee Superstar <xxwinterxrosexx@h...> wrote:
> > how much is it and where can i buy it from? :D
> >
> >
> > >From: boy_in_eyeliner <no_reply@...>
> > >Reply-To: unknownpleasures@...
> > >To: unknownpleasures@...
> > >Subject: [Unknown Pleasures] Re: New Joy Division Live Boxset
> > >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 15:16:29 -0000
> > >
> > >hmm..i'm not sure whether to buy the boxset now, as i already
have
> > >both the preston+les bains albums and i have the paradiso gig on
a
> > >bootleg casette (which has pretty good sound quality).
> > >
> > >*torn whether to buy boxset*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In unknownpleasures@..., An-dirain
> > ><lost_echoes@y...> wrote:
> > > > Yes, all this is correct. At first I thought I was missing
> > > > the Paradiso Cd, but then I noticed it was in the Les Bains
> > > > case. For the shirt, I wish we got to pick our own size,
> > > > it seems everyone's getting an XL. Also, it comes it a
> > > > cool little plastic box.
> > > >
> > > > AfterTheRAin...
> > > > --- boy_in_eyeliner <no_reply@...> wrote:
> > > > > After reading posts on www.joydiv.com it appears that the
> > > > > paradiso cd
> > > > > is tucked in with the les bains cd, as a sort of 'bonus'
> > > > > cd, and not
> > > > > actually in its own cd case with sleeve etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, that the preston cd has bonus tracks taken from the
> > > > > eindhoven
> > > > > show and that the t-shirt just says "refractured" on it,
> > > > > and doesn't
> > > > > have anything actually jd related on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you tell me if this is all correct?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In unknownpleasures@..., An-dirain
> > > > > <lost_echoes@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > I just received my Copy of Refractured Box One number
> > > > > 1212.
> > > > > > The Paradiso show is brilliant, awesome, I am
> > > > > overwhelmed
> > > > > > all over again. Ian's voice is so powerful, of course
> > > > > I
> > > > > > didn't expect anything less. Everyone must own this
> > > > > > Boxset.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AfterTheRAin...
> > > > > >
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