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the Love Will Tear Us Apart video was a live performance of the song
filmed at T.J. Davidson's (the band's rehearsal place).
The studio track was then dubbed over the video of the band's live
performance.
It was recorded on the 28th April 1980, which was about 3 weeks
before Ian's suicide.

As for Joy Division being facist, that isn't true.
The band played around with the imagery initially more for shock
value, to set themselves apart from other bands.
Although Ian was very interested in many German things..Werner Herzog
movies, Kraut-rock and electronica, German Composers and yes, the
Nazi Regieme.

But just because he was interested in the regieme doesn't make Ian a
nazi...lots of people, myself included, are interested in that time
period, as it was a pivitol moment in world history.

As for New Order's name, Rob Gretton (JD/NO manager) found the name
while reading a newspaper headline in summer 1980..it had nothing to
do with Nazi Germany :)
It wasn't until the band announced to the press what their choice of
new name was that people jumped to conclusions.

hope all this helps!


--- In unknownpleasures@..., "jaketheduck18"
<jakebutterworth@h...> wrote:
> Having just watched 24 hour party people there are few questions I
> would like to ask. Being only 16 I have only come to know Joy
> Division recently, but i know they are bloody amazing. However I
> would like to no if they were facist or had right-wing ideas? We
> know that Joy Division is the women who had sex with SS troops to
> produce the perfect race, and New Order is Hitler's perfect state.
> I also don't understand the love will tear us apart video, which is
> one of my favourite songs of all time. Could someone please clear
> this up please? Much abliged.




Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:35 pm

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Having just watched 24 hour party people there are few questions I would like to ask. Being only 16 I have only come to know Joy Division recently, but i know...
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Apr 13, 2004
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the Love Will Tear Us Apart video was a live performance of the song filmed at T.J. Davidson's (the band's rehearsal place). The studio track was then dubbed...
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That's very helpful thanks, however the video you are talking about and the one i am talking about is different. The one your talking about was used when Love...
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Apr 14, 2004
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I think the video you're describing is the video for 'Atmosphere' and they're not KKK members, they're people dressed up as druids. Bernard Sumner isn't...
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Thank-you very much. I didn't mean to cause offence with anything I said, but i supose the main thing is the genius they produced. Whats peoples favourite Joy...
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Apr 14, 2004
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I find it very hard to choose a favourite J/D album, as they're all masterpieces, but if i was forced to choose one it would be 'Closer'. If only because of...
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