Wasn't "New Order" named after Pol Pot's regime? I can't remember where I
read that... I think JD/NO only have fascist references to challenge the
audience, like how the Sex Pistols only released God Save the Queen to piss
the public off, and JD were obviously fans of theirs. Very punk.

The thing I don't understand about the video is the door opening and
shutting that many times; I suppose it fits nicely in time with the music,
and was maybe used as filler, but I can't see any meaning other than that.

Michelle.


>From: boy_in_eyeliner <no_reply@...>
>Reply-To: unknownpleasures@...
>To: unknownpleasures@...
>Subject: [Unknown Pleasures] Re: joy division
>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:35:38 -0000
>
>the Love Will Tear Us Apart video was a live performance of the song
>filmed at T.J. Davidson's (the band's rehearsal place).
>The studio track was then dubbed over the video of the band's live
>performance.
>It was recorded on the 28th April 1980, which was about 3 weeks
>before Ian's suicide.
>
>As for Joy Division being facist, that isn't true.
>The band played around with the imagery initially more for shock
>value, to set themselves apart from other bands.
>Although Ian was very interested in many German things..Werner Herzog
>movies, Kraut-rock and electronica, German Composers and yes, the
>Nazi Regieme.
>
>But just because he was interested in the regieme doesn't make Ian a
>nazi...lots of people, myself included, are interested in that time
>period, as it was a pivitol moment in world history.
>
>As for New Order's name, Rob Gretton (JD/NO manager) found the name
>while reading a newspaper headline in summer 1980..it had nothing to
>do with Nazi Germany :)
>It wasn't until the band announced to the press what their choice of
>new name was that people jumped to conclusions.
>
>hope all this helps!

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