I know New Order's name was after something Rob Gretton read in a
newspaper article..what the article was about i can't recall.



--- In unknownpleasures@..., "Michelle ."
<jack_fairy@h...> wrote:
> Wasn't "New Order" named after Pol Pot's regime? I can't remember
where I
> read that... I think JD/NO only have fascist references to
challenge the
> audience, like how the Sex Pistols only released God Save the Queen
to piss
> the public off, and JD were obviously fans of theirs. Very punk.
>
> The thing I don't understand about the video is the door opening
and
> shutting that many times; I suppose it fits nicely in time with the
music,
> and was maybe used as filler, but I can't see any meaning other
than that.
>
> Michelle.
>
>
> >From: boy_in_eyeliner <no_reply@...>
> >Reply-To: unknownpleasures@...
> >To: unknownpleasures@...
> >Subject: [Unknown Pleasures] Re: joy division
> >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:35:38 -0000
> >
> >the Love Will Tear Us Apart video was a live performance of the
song
> >filmed at T.J. Davidson's (the band's rehearsal place).
> >The studio track was then dubbed over the video of the band's live
> >performance.
> >It was recorded on the 28th April 1980, which was about 3 weeks
> >before Ian's suicide.
> >
> >As for Joy Division being facist, that isn't true.
> >The band played around with the imagery initially more for shock
> >value, to set themselves apart from other bands.
> >Although Ian was very interested in many German things..Werner
Herzog
> >movies, Kraut-rock and electronica, German Composers and yes, the
> >Nazi Regieme.
> >
> >But just because he was interested in the regieme doesn't make Ian
a
> >nazi...lots of people, myself included, are interested in that time
> >period, as it was a pivitol moment in world history.
> >
> >As for New Order's name, Rob Gretton (JD/NO manager) found the name
> >while reading a newspaper headline in summer 1980..it had nothing
to
> >do with Nazi Germany :)
> >It wasn't until the band announced to the press what their choice
of
> >new name was that people jumped to conclusions.
> >
> >hope all this helps!
>
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