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Re: [Unknown Pleasures] Deciphering the Lyrics

Hi,
I guess the cheerful summertime doesn't go well with discussion about Joy
Division (or everyone's on holiday).

I don't think anyone except Ian could know exactly what he'd ment by his lyrics,
so unless he'd explained the somewhere we can only guess.
My idea about "you" in "you take my place in the showdown" was at first that it
was directed to the listener, but now you've brought it up it might be of
religious origin, as Heart and Soul is a religious song. Ian had always struck
me as interested in religion, there are religious themes in many of his lyrics,
as well as philosophical themes, themes from literature, and themes about love
and life in general. I don't know how much he was into religion privately-I'm
not really that interested in his private life, that's why I didn't try harder
to get Touching From a Distance. But he was definitely interested in religion,
as well as many other things.

I have to stress now that I'm not a native English speaker, so someone from
English speaking territories (preferably North of England) could perform a
better analysis knowing all the linguistic details, metaphors and specific
figures of speech that I'm probably not aware of.

Cheers,

Jul.


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My, Goodness, its dead in here! Is anybody home? Hello? I am writing to ask about the lyrics to some of Joy Divison's songs. What confuses me is that Ian often...
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Hi, I guess the cheerful summertime doesn't go well with discussion about Joy Division (or everyone's on holiday). I don't think anyone except Ian could know...
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I think the "you" in 'you take my place in the showdown' was possibly directed at the rest of the band members. They carried on as New Order and took Ian's...
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Sep 2, 2004
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And Ian did say that the same lyric might have one meaning for one listener, another for another...more than one person can be right at the same time. ... ...
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So where are you from Juls? Your name sounds Croatian. Cheers, Mark ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?...
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You're right, I'm from Zagreb. It should be in my profile somewhere in the group. You from anywhere nearby ? Your name sounds...er...like a nickname in one of...
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