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Re: [Unknown Pleasures] Deciphering the Lyrics

So where are you from Juls? Your name sounds Croatian.

Cheers,

Mark

--- Julijana Zitnjak <jzitnjak@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I guess the cheerful summertime doesn't go well with
> discussion about Joy Division (or everyone's on
> holiday).
>
> I don't think anyone except Ian could know exactly
> what he'd ment by his lyrics, so unless he'd
> explained the somewhere we can only guess.
> My idea about "you" in "you take my place in the
> showdown" was at first that it was directed to the
> listener, but now you've brought it up it might be
> of religious origin, as Heart and Soul is a
> religious song. Ian had always struck me as
> interested in religion, there are religious themes
> in many of his lyrics, as well as philosophical
> themes, themes from literature, and themes about
> love and life in general. I don't know how much he
> was into religion privately-I'm not really that
> interested in his private life, that's why I didn't
> try harder to get Touching From a Distance. But he
> was definitely interested in religion, as well as
> many other things.
>
> I have to stress now that I'm not a native English
> speaker, so someone from English speaking
> territories (preferably North of England) could
> perform a better analysis knowing all the linguistic
> details, metaphors and specific figures of speech
> that I'm probably not aware of.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jul.
>
>
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My, Goodness, its dead in here! Is anybody home? Hello? I am writing to ask about the lyrics to some of Joy Divison's songs. What confuses me is that Ian often...
ardianagoth
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Hi, I guess the cheerful summertime doesn't go well with discussion about Joy Division (or everyone's on holiday). I don't think anyone except Ian could know...
Julijana Zitnjak
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Sep 2, 2004
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I think the "you" in 'you take my place in the showdown' was possibly directed at the rest of the band members. They carried on as New Order and took Ian's...
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Sep 2, 2004
12:28 pm

And Ian did say that the same lyric might have one meaning for one listener, another for another...more than one person can be right at the same time. ... ...
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Sep 2, 2004
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So where are you from Juls? Your name sounds Croatian. Cheers, Mark ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?...
Dr Elvis Klokanovic
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Sep 3, 2004
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You're right, I'm from Zagreb. It should be in my profile somewhere in the group. You from anywhere nearby ? Your name sounds...er...like a nickname in one of...
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