wow! that was deep,dude! i think you maybe right tho. i have been
rakin' my teeny tiny brain tryin to think of manc bands before joy
division (of the same genre)but none comes to mind.

im usualy more amazed at how many people have NEVER heard of joy
division. well, they have heard of them but they dont realise this
till i explain that "they are the ones that sang love will tear us
apart".