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#981 From: left_over_milk
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: the influence
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wow! that was deep,dude! i think you maybe right tho. i have been
rakin' my teeny tiny brain tryin to think of manc bands before joy
division (of the same genre)but none comes to mind.

im usualy more amazed at how many people have NEVER heard of joy
division. well, they have heard of them but they dont realise this
till i explain that "they are the ones that sang love will tear us
apart".

#980 From: "whisky_gone" <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 7:38 am
Subject: the influence
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Is anyone else amazed at how big joy division are these days,also how
new order formed and went to be just as succesful.Its mad that the
whole manchester music scene started with joy division.Curtis death
most probably played a big part in shaping music that was to
come,altho no band has never and never will  capture what joy
division had!

#979 From: "whisky_gone" <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 11:39 am
Subject: shes lost control again!
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Alright man,hope you get to read this, missing you like we miss a
beer,im only 50% when im not with you,you really do make it so much
more fun goin out and gettin hammerered.Cant wait to see you
again.Hope life is being good to you!xxx!

#978 From: "whisky_gone" <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 11:32 am
Subject: making the pilgrimage.
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cant wait to go back to Macclesfield again,last time was the
bollocks,i reckon each time i go there will only get better.Its weird
to go there and then go to some of the local pubs and they ask you
what you are doing in Macclesfield and when you tell them they have
never heard of their favourite son,Ian Curtis,unbelievable!Lookin
forward to goin there in the summer with the person of my dreams and
meetin all the freindly faces in the pub again!It is a boss weekend
out just cause you dont really know any one there so can do what the
hell you like and no-one will bat an eyelid.Go there and be the
coolest people in town,i know we were last time we went!

#977 From: Neil Morrissy <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] macclesfield
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i have read the book'touching from a distance',which was a gift from some cool
dude.didnt realise how much of a twisted soul he wasMaybe that added to his
persona,he had the talent
i think its amazin how he alreay knew he was gonna make songs and succeed.i can
only imagine what it must have been like to have been around at that time.the
songs are just as powerful now and i think a whole generation will get caught up
in the music.
left_over_milk <no_reply@...> wrote:i also had an amazing time
when i payed a visit to macclesfield. im
defo gonna go back sometime soon. the people around there are so
cool and the pubs round there are the best. its just so sad that
such a tragedy brings us there!

but you know,in a twisted way its what he wanted. everything i have
ever read on ian paints this picture of a man who truely wanted to
be this 'live fast die young' icon like james dean or jim morrison.

has anyone read 'touching from a distance' by deborah curtis?  im
half way through it right now. its pretty interesting.




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#976 From: left_over_milk
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:54 pm
Subject: macclesfield
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i also had an amazing time when i payed a visit to macclesfield. im
defo gonna go back sometime soon. the people around there are so
cool and the pubs round there are the best. its just so sad that
such a tragedy brings us there!

but you know,in a twisted way its what he wanted. everything i have
ever read on ian paints this picture of a man who truely wanted to
be this 'live fast die young' icon like james dean or jim morrison.

has anyone read 'touching from a distance' by deborah curtis?  im
half way through it right now. its pretty interesting.

#975 From: "whisky_gone" <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 11:00 pm
Subject: left over milk
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alright man,hope u come back online soon i miss our little
emails.things are good over here hope all is ok 4 u.did u manage to
have a drink over the weekend,cause that is what we live for right!
missing you loads,hope u get too see this!xxxx!whisky gone!

#974 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 11:55 am
Subject: Re: hi all
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I'm glad you got to see the cemetery in Macclesfield.
Ian's death was tragic, but at the same time, with him going through
such personal turmoil, it's understandable why he did what he did.

Enjoy seeing New Order!

--- In unknownpleasures@..., "Mi" <mioandskull@y...>
wrote:
> hiya nice to meet you im a big fan of JD/NO in japan and went to
> ian's cemetery in macclesfield third times during living in
> manchester in 2002.
> whenever i went there,i'm always overwhelmed with grief as we had
> lost a great musician...
> anyway NO is going to play in japan this summer!wow!
> Mi

#973 From: "Mi" <mioandskull@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2005 11:11 pm
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hiya nice to meet you im a big fan of JD/NO in japan and went to
ian's cemetery in macclesfield third times during living in
manchester in 2002.
whenever i went there,i'm always overwhelmed with grief as we had
lost a great musician...
anyway NO is going to play in japan this summer!wow!
Mi

#972 From: "whisky_gone" <whisky_gone@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 11:23 pm
Subject: best weekend ever
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went to macclesfield cemertry couple of weeks ago had the best
weekend ever lookin at all things ian curtis,spot on place it helps
when u have the coolest company in the world.everyone shoulkd godo it

#971 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 12:00 am
Subject: New Joy Division / Ian Curtis Book
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Mick Middles' long awaited Ian Curtis/Joy Division biography will
finally be published this September.
Retitled 'Torn Apart: The Life Of Ian Curtis', it's due for release
on 10th September, priced £19.95.

You can pre-order it for £13.96 at amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1844498263/ref=ase_joydivisi
onbo-21/202-3725396-4061423

#966 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Thu May 26, 2005 4:59 pm
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Welcome to the group, hope you enjoy it here.
Do you have a favourite Joy Division song?

--- In unknownpleasures@..., "iceni_rebel"
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> chating to a few of you.
>
> Thanks
>
> John.

#965 From: "iceni_rebel" <doubts_even_here@...>
Date: Fri May 20, 2005 10:36 pm
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I was just browsing when I stumbled across this group and instantly
thought "great, I must join".....ahhh the beauty of Yahoo!

Anyway, glad to be amongst like minded people and look forward to
chating to a few of you.

Thanks

John.

#964 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Wed May 18, 2005 3:56 pm
Subject: Ian Curtis: 15th July 1956 - 18th May 1980
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25 years on. Joy Division's music means so much to me, as do Ian's
words. They always will. The music is still timeless, evocative,
beautiful.

A true genius, albeit a troubled one; a man for whom my admiration
will never fade.

"Avenues all lined with trees, picture me and then you start
watching...forever"

Rest in peace Ian.

#962 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sat Apr 2, 2005 12:56 pm
Subject: 'Control' Movie Soundtrack
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Regarding the new Ian biopic movie, one of the two soundtrack cds
will feature covers by bands who are J/D fans.
So far, bands asked to record songs are U2, Marilyn Manson, Kraftwerk
and Doves. Apparently, only Kraftwerk have so far declined.

I don't fancy U2 or M.Manson slaughtering JD material!

#959 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:05 pm
Subject: Waiting For The Siren's Call
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has anyone else here bought a copy? If so, what are your opinions of
the new album?

#958 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:51 am
Subject: New Order day on BBC Radio 6 today
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All tune in at 3pm for an interview with Hooky and Steve!

#957 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sat Mar 5, 2005 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] J/D special in this month's Mojo magazine
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It is a great issue, although i see your point...but i suppose at
least they've done something for the 25th anniversary of Ian's death.
Or maybe it's cos New Order have a new album out? I wonder...

--- In unknownpleasures@..., neil light
<neil_light@y...> wrote:
> got my copy today , superb stuff , i wrote to mojo in
> 2000 and berated them for not having a feature on ian
> on the 20th anniversary of his death , they published
> the letter too .
> glad things have been put in order now  although
> intelligent music fans will always remember ian and
> joy division .
> --- four_enclosed_walls
> <four_enclosed_walls@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hurry to the shops and get this month's edition.
> > There's an 18 page feature on Joy Division,
> > including rare
> > photographs, interviews with New Order, Natalie
> > Curtis, Peter Saville
> > and Tony Wilson.
> > http://www.mojo4music.com
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#956 From: neil light <neil_light@...>
Date: Sat Mar 5, 2005 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] J/D special in this month's Mojo magazine
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got my copy today , superb stuff , i wrote to mojo in
2000 and berated them for not having a feature on ian
on the 20th anniversary of his death , they published
the letter too .
glad things have been put in order now  although
intelligent music fans will always remember ian and
joy division .
--- four_enclosed_walls
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> Hurry to the shops and get this month's edition.
> There's an 18 page feature on Joy Division,
> including rare
> photographs, interviews with New Order, Natalie
> Curtis, Peter Saville
> and Tony Wilson.
> http://www.mojo4music.com
>
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#955 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Fri Mar 4, 2005 10:25 pm
Subject: J/D special in this month's Mojo magazine
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Hurry to the shops and get this month's edition.
There's an 18 page feature on Joy Division, including rare
photographs, interviews with New Order, Natalie Curtis, Peter Saville
and Tony Wilson.
http://www.mojo4music.com

#954 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:20 am
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] The Sound
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Glad someone else here is a fan! :D
I recommend the follow-up to 'From The Lion's Mouth'; 'All Fall
Down'...it's a great album, i'd say equal to Lion's Mouth.

--- In unknownpleasures@..., neil light
<neil_light@y...> wrote:
> Yes , not only have i heard of them i have been saying
> for some time to various peole how unsung they are , i
> e mailed stuart maconie at radio 2 to suggest THE
> SOUND  as a feature for his unsung feature also .
> Ive got three of there cd's , recently re issued
> JEPORDY  , FROM THE LIONS MOUTH and IN THE HOTHOUSE
> live at the marquee august 1985  , from the lions
> mouth
> is the best of them especially the track ' sense of
> purpose .
> Sad to say adrian borland  , like ian curtis , took
> his own life but the music , especially from the lions
> mouth cd is heavily influenced by joy division .
> i urge you all to check this band out !!!! .
>
>
> --- four_enclosed_walls
> <four_enclosed_walls@y...> wrote:
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> >
> > Anyone heard of this great post-punk band from the
> > early 80s?
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#953 From: neil light <neil_light@...>
Date: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] The Sound
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Yes , not only have i heard of them i have been saying
for some time to various peole how unsung they are , i
e mailed stuart maconie at radio 2 to suggest THE
SOUND  as a feature for his unsung feature also .
Ive got three of there cd's , recently re issued
JEPORDY  , FROM THE LIONS MOUTH and IN THE HOTHOUSE
live at the marquee august 1985  , from the lions
mouth
is the best of them especially the track ' sense of
purpose .
Sad to say adrian borland  , like ian curtis , took
his own life but the music , especially from the lions
mouth cd is heavily influenced by joy division .
i urge you all to check this band out !!!! .


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> Anyone heard of this great post-punk band from the
> early 80s?
> I recommend their stuff.
> http://www.brittleheaven.com
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#952 From: Fred Dale <fmdale@...>
Date: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:00 am
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] The Sound
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The late great Jimbo Morrison said "This is the end my only friend rhe end". -
Mr Curtis tried to prove it just about a decade (or so) later. Can't be sure
about the dates 'cos "Mr. Mojo risin" is still Simple Minds (Alive and kicking.)
Oh oh - I'm getting carried away here.

                                                                        Fred 
Dale

P.S. I worked with Jim Morrison at William Press works, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
(fact!!!)
Someone take these dreams away.

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#951 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:17 am
Subject: The Sound
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I recommend their stuff. http://www.brittleheaven.com

#950 From: "jaketheduck18" <jakebutterworth@...>
Date: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Joy Division Discography
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Ok i'll get the BBC recordings next, and the other live recordings,
but not the box set as i have the majority of the tracks anyway, and
i am not made of money (although thinking about it that would be
pretty damn cool)

I have also been thinking of getting a joy division tatoo of the
unknown pleasures album cover, but where you think it'll look
best...no crude replies please...we are adults after all




--- In unknownpleasures@..., "four_enclosed_walls"
<four_enclosed_walls@y...> wrote:
>
> Definately get the 'Complete BBC Recordings' next, as it features
> great alternate versions of JD classics and an interview with Ian
and
> Steve.
> The 2 live albums (Preston and Les Bains Douches) are also
fantastic,
> so get those as well if you can.
> The 'Warsaw' album is good, but don't expect a pristine sounding
> album, as it's tracks from an aborted attempt at recording an
album
> for a major label in 1978...but the version of 'Shadowplay' on
that
> album is stunning.
>
> And last but definately not least, get the 'Heart And Soul' boxset!
> It's got virtually every studio recording J/D ever made, plus
great
> live tracks and a wonderful deluxe booklet.
> Basically, get everything!
>
>
> --- In unknownpleasures@..., "jaketheduck18"
> <jakebutterworth@h...> wrote:
> >
> > My Joy Division collection is now Unknown Pleasures, Closer,
> > Substance, and Still and i was wonder what do people recommend
me
> > getting next.  I was curious about Warsaw, but have many of the
> > tracks already, as well as the BBC recording, Preston 1980 and
Les
> > Bains Douche all take my fancy, (anyone's i missed?) but
wondered
> > what people thought should be my next purchase

#949 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Joy Division Discography
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Definately get the 'Complete BBC Recordings' next, as it features
great alternate versions of JD classics and an interview with Ian and
Steve.
The 2 live albums (Preston and Les Bains Douches) are also fantastic,
so get those as well if you can.
The 'Warsaw' album is good, but don't expect a pristine sounding
album, as it's tracks from an aborted attempt at recording an album
for a major label in 1978...but the version of 'Shadowplay' on that
album is stunning.

And last but definately not least, get the 'Heart And Soul' boxset!
It's got virtually every studio recording J/D ever made, plus great
live tracks and a wonderful deluxe booklet.
Basically, get everything!


--- In unknownpleasures@..., "jaketheduck18"
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> My Joy Division collection is now Unknown Pleasures, Closer,
> Substance, and Still and i was wonder what do people recommend me
> getting next.  I was curious about Warsaw, but have many of the
> tracks already, as well as the BBC recording, Preston 1980 and Les
> Bains Douche all take my fancy, (anyone's i missed?) but wondered
> what people thought should be my next purchase

#948 From: ardianagoth
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:15 pm
Subject: New York City Joy Division Meetup Group!
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Hello, I am just dropping this note to announce the creation of a Joy
Division meetup group in New York City. What do meetup groups do?
Well we gather together in pre-arraranged place and discuss all
things Joy Division. We also have a message board where you can leave
your opinions, suggestions, etc. We will be meeting every fourth
friday of the month at 8pm, the place TBA very soon. To sign on for
the meetup, the link is: http://joydivision.meetup.com/1/

Thanks for listening.

#947 From: "jaketheduck18" <jakebutterworth@...>
Date: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:06 pm
Subject: Joy Division Discography
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My Joy Division collection is now Unknown Pleasures, Closer,
Substance, and Still and i was wonder what do people recommend me
getting next.  I was curious about Warsaw, but have many of the
tracks already, as well as the BBC recording, Preston 1980 and Les
Bains Douche all take my fancy, (anyone's i missed?) but wondered
what people thought should be my next purchase

#946 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:28 pm
Subject: Joy Division Tattoos
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Does anyone have any Joy Division/New Order/Factory tattoos?
I'm only asking because my g/f has had a photo of her Joy Divsion
tattoo put up at http://members.aol.com/lwtua/scrapbook.htm

It's the one with the Ideal For Living era text..rather stunning i'm
sure you'll agree!

#945 From: "four_enclosed_walls" <four_enclosed_walls@...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [Unknown Pleasures] Anyone Still Around?
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Speaking of the movie, there's news about it at www.joydiv.com


--- In unknownpleasures@..., Julijana Zitnjak
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> In our minds we're in heaven with Ian :). No need for words.
>
> And it'll probably get livelier when the movie's released.
>
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