Dear Friends of Science and Astronomy,

Regarding the last subject of our Ancient Planetary Panchang calendar some still
have doubts and raised Positive /Negative question regarding subjects as
follows. Though we can not teach them this way but definitely guide them if they
wish to study the subject them selves and work them selves out.

Comment 1)

I am surprised to hear that year 2006 started 3 days late and none in the
astronomy community noticed this. Surprising ! BTW, how can we tell that it
was 3 days late? I mean what is the reference point? Another thing just out of
curiosity is that, how these events in the panchang are recorded? Are these data
derived from actual observations, calculations or are those taken from astronomy
community?

Comment 2)

Old indian astronomical records are good, and fairly accurate. but that does not
mean we should think that they are the best observed values ever. The gregorian
calendar is used becuase it is pretty simple, as well as widely used - imagine
having learnt only the shaka system in india and going abroad to suddenly find
the rest of the world using the gregorian
calendar, or even worse, each country using their own calendar !

Comment 3)
1. How nutation is measured by naked eyes observation? 2. How rahu and ketu are
tracked. ( i have background knowledge....so please be as technical as u can)
Again, I have no objection on the beauty of panchang system. I believe it was
the best system over widest range of time.

Very interesting if they are realy study self / work them out only, I am pleased
that some are still interested about the ancient system of the planetary
calendar and timings. But just raising a question /doubt does not full fill that
all. one has to work hard and by selves to evolve and do the job by self by
actually visiting those places and WORKING there. SUN TEMPLEs are perfect
examples of calculation time day , months & seasons and orbits of Sun and
planetary aspects and eclipse. Ancient Observatories are perfect for
astronomical measurements and measuring all the aspects of planetary science and
timings, Eclipses and Rahu and Ketu and its movements and timings of orbits
crossing points of SUN and Moon planetary orbits.

More mathematically it has been well explained in a Rare and recently
unavailable book of "Spherical astronomy" book by W.M. SMART - MANY BOOKS ARE
NOT in the market and so many use only photocopied pages of those books. though
the books are more formulated and not a ready resource like an internet browse
and data copy /download data. may be difficult to understand or work with a
applied own brain.

TEXTBOOK ON SPHERICAL ASTRONOMY W.M. SMART 4 1956
TEXTBOOK ON SPHERICAL ASTRONOMY W.M. SMART 5 1971
TEXTBOOK ON SPHERICAL ASTRONOMY W.M. SMART R.M. GREEN (Re.) 6 1977

and translated to "GOLIYA KHAGOL VIGYAN" by University Granth Nirman Board -
may be available in many old science libraries. Government of India has produced
last report of Report of the "PANCHANG SANSODHAN" also in Gujarati copy
"PANCHANG SANSODHAN samiti aheval" explaining how different panchangs were
evolved and how it works. That's again a rare report and not available
ordinarily but had to trace that by self and not just to read but to
study/calculate it. Recently an Indian Astronomer published a report on new
years day saying that "believe me or not this is not a new year day 1/1/2006 but
4/1/2006" but no body even noticed that comment and how could any one notice
that as long as they also do not have any thing to understand that statement or
to comment on not negatively but positively.

I am really pleased that many modern astronomy workers are returning to study
back from those ancient astronomical archaeological monuments. though after many
hard discussions One of such DELHI Planetarium had very good activity @ Delhi
Jantar Mantar and really thanks to Dr Ratnaji. who sincerely realised the
importance of that and carried out many activity in Delhi during Venus transit
2004. all doubts and discussion are available in message groups
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/venustransit_2004/

During Moguls empire time most of such monuments are destroyed by aggressions
(12 to 15 century) Western occupation by application of forcibly western
calendar system and gradually discarding the traditional Planetary calendars (16
to 19 century) and rest we are still carrying it out after independence.

We do have many Ancient Astronomical archaeological places such as JANTAR
MANTARs , VEDH SHALAs, Sun TEMPLEs of most are either destroyed or at the brisk
of non use. Unluckily all such monuments either destroyed or in non working
situation because of most of do not know about their working methods or
restricted use of those. Many do visits those for just for interest of only
Visiting / photography but never do any observations work there because of
ignorance of the subjects. please do not take any thing personal bur There is
one Kahavat "Hiro GHOGHE jai aavyo ane Deli ye HAATh dai aavyo" where "Gogha" is
the Port of "GHOGHA" in BHAVNAGAR.

By yours Dr.BHUDIA-Science Group Of INDIA.
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