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Eric Mille, a member of the French Warré e-group 'La Libera Abelo' has given
permission to forward to this group a translation of his message of 17 June.

He has hives with windows on opposite sides. For a year, he has tried
exposing some colonies to light by leaving the window shutters off. The
windows are never in direct sunlight.

The precedent for this is apparently a book called 'Au Pays des Abeilles' by
Maurice Gicquel, 1944, chapter 4, pp 78-81. Gicquel had hives that let in
light on 4 sides.

Here is Eric Mille's post:

"I compared 4 colonies exposed to daylight and 4 kept in the dark.
I compared the height of construction in each. The ones in the dark
constructed one third as much as those in the light.
The bees in the light are calmer, more populous and have fewer guards at the
entrances. The windows are lightly propolised on the upper boxes where the
honey is stored. In the part where the brood is and below it, the windows
are completely tansparent.
In the hives in the dark the windows are transparent from top to bottom and
on both sides of the hive.
The hives are in the same apiary, facing the same way. [...]"

Certainly I've noticed that exposing a hive or frame of bees to direct
sunshine can make them extraorinarily calm.

Seely and Morse will have to do their nest site selection study again, next
time including a whole set of illuminated cavities.
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David Heaf North-West Wales, UK
Warré & 'National' hives at 30 m over mean sea level
Warré beekeeping English web portal:
http://warre.biobees.com/index.html
***OR***
http://www.heaf.freeuk.com/warre/
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... ******************************* this is very interesting. anyone here plan on experimenting with this. it would be nice to hear from others about this. ...
jeff hartman
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Jul 5, 2009
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Hi Jeff- ... I agree that it is interesting from purely a curiosity/scientific standpoint. But what relevance does it have for natural beekeeping, since it...
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Jul 5, 2009
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Hi John ... I have seen colonies set up home in daylight flooded cavities, much larger than hives, they lasted several years (I am talking about times ...
Dave Cushman
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Jul 5, 2009
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Hi Dave- ... Daylight-flooded hives, yes under eavestroughs, rock ledges, etc. Not glass hives. Huge difference in every aspect. Regards John ... ...
moersch51
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Jul 5, 2009
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... I agree Dave, it does sound to good to be true. Bees will do this all day long, provided the climate is right and they are protected from rain. Growing up,...
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Jul 5, 2009
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Jeff wrote: "this is very interesting. anyone here plan on experimenting with this. it would be nice to hear from others about this." One argument against it...
David Heaf
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Jul 5, 2009
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Hi David- ... How could we know that they would "prefer" the light? Is it because they seem calmer? Is it because they build more comb, or bigger brood nests. ...
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Jul 5, 2009
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... ********************* thanks for this john, you always have a way of bringing things back to simple natural beekeeping as it should be. peace jeff...
jeff hartman
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Jul 6, 2009
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There's a blogger in italy who use glass hive http://terraedintorni.blogspot.com/2009/06/arnia-vetri.html. Yes, it's all in italian... sorry. By the way, in a...
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Nicola wrote: "There's a blogger in italy who use glass hive http://terraedintorni.blogspot.com/2009/06/arnia-vetri.html " Thanks. I have sent the link to 'La...
David Heaf
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John M wrote: "These same "evidences" can be produced by other manipulations as well, like manipulating for unlimited brood nest, or top-supering." Yes,...
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Hi David- ... book on ... Another ... Hives where two queens are in operation are not rare, either in feral or domestic hives. Most commonly these occur...
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Jul 6, 2009
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... Highly unlikely, though possible...However, I have seen 2 queen colonies occur naturally and so have many many other beekeepers. -- Scot McPherson, CISSP,...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Maybe you can contact this guy, for further experience information: http://www.badassbees.com/roundobs/roundobs.html ...
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