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Hi- ... I have been searching for ways to get my hives through the winter here in Alberta without insulating. This seemed a cheap and quick way to help protect...
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davidlcroteau@...
dvdcrowtoe
Jan 31, 2009 2:38 pm
Your not a Warre purist? Maybe I should stop reading your messages. dav ... From: "moersch51" <moersch51@...> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:16 AM To:...
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lgttlgtt
Jan 31, 2009 2:43 pm
... Let us know how that works for you....
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Bernhard Heuvel
zaunreiter
Jan 31, 2009 2:48 pm
... I disagree, because I've seen a hive in my friend's beeyard which had a cold and wet floor. The bees didn't jump into the lowest box, they avoided the...
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followmechaps
Jan 31, 2009 4:56 pm
... bees is ... hive ... I'm 100% with you Bernhard. I'll stick to the original wood floor on my Warres - if it ain't bust don't fix it! To keep others happy I...
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billsf9c
Jan 31, 2009 4:58 pm
This was initially a response to a naturecoastbeekeeper (?) list. ... ... it occurs to me that a Warre' is typically a tad small, ( as compared to a "typical"...
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David Heaf
davidheaf
Jan 31, 2009 6:40 pm
John wrote: "There will be no top bars in these hives, just one big cavity." Not even a few spales as in the Apis cerana 'Warrs': ...
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David Heaf
davidheaf
Jan 31, 2009 6:40 pm
Dav wrote: "The bees do not live on the ground floor so the temperature of the floor would not bother them I would think, it may bother mites though." I'm...
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Ilmārs B.
kamzolis
Jan 31, 2009 6:56 pm
... Cold does not radiate any waves, cold absorbs heat waves. so if bees radiate heat waves cold absorbs and takes heat waves from bees. So bees perceives that...
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Steve Ham
flypiedrahita
Jan 31, 2009 7:35 pm
While making my hives a year ago I also incorporated a sump, but only 10cm deep with a Dartington style entry and a mesh at the level of the top of the...
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Ilmārs B.
kamzolis
Jan 31, 2009 7:49 pm
I think that we should not to argue is it vapour lighter or colder than air. Possibly I was ignorant translating Lupanov's text. I should think about that in...
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billsf9c
Jan 31, 2009 8:52 pm
Let me plauy the "devil's advocate" here, but with some seriousness of case as well as treating the subject without judgement. 300 x 300 = 90,000 (Standard...
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moersch51
Jan 31, 2009 9:26 pm
Hi all- I will post a picture of an octagonal Warre box as soon as my daughter brings her camera. Regards John...
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David Heaf
davidheaf
Jan 31, 2009 10:08 pm
Mainly for the benefit of subscribers who joined since I last mentioned this: When quoting another message please select the part you are referring to and ...
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David Heaf
davidheaf
Jan 31, 2009 10:19 pm
Steve wrote: "Because I worried about dead bees in the sump (and varroa hitching a lift up), I used the mesh. The back of the sump has a closable door (the...
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Bernhard Heuvel
zaunreiter
Jan 31, 2009 10:31 pm
Ok, now they start to calculate evidence, that a concrete doesn't make a cold bum. Make a simple test. Sit on a concrete slab on a winter's day for an hour or...
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Nick H.
sunnyknoll12
Jan 31, 2009 10:51 pm
Hello All! I have to agree with Bernhard here... Concrete and cement do not radiate heat as quickly as wood. Heat "travels" through the wood of the beehive...
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Nick H.
sunnyknoll12
Jan 31, 2009 11:01 pm
Just a follow up note... Trapped air is a very good insulator. However, if you have a sump on a cold slab of concrete, the air will eventually become colder,...
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davidlcroteau@...
dvdcrowtoe
Jan 31, 2009 11:03 pm
The simple solution to cold/hot cement slabs Is don't clean out the sump. Dav...
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Nick H.
sunnyknoll12
Jan 31, 2009 11:12 pm
"The simple solution to cold/hot cement slabs Is don't clean out the sump." HI Dav! How does that solve it? You still have a slab of cement under the whole...
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davidlcroteau@...
dvdcrowtoe
Jan 31, 2009 11:30 pm
I don't think of a sump as an insulator, more like a chaff bin, let the chaff build up a couple inches instead of using sawdust. Maybe clean the floor once a...
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jeff hartman
climbzen
Jan 31, 2009 11:34 pm
a good solution may be build a sump box with a wooden floor to it and a door on the back to clean it out. then make a box under that floor out of 2x4's that...
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Nick H.
sunnyknoll12
Jan 31, 2009 11:51 pm
"I don't think of a sump as an insulator, more like a chaff bin, let the chaff build up a couple inches instead of using sawdust." "The quilt preventing heat...
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moersch51
Jan 31, 2009 11:57 pm
Hi Jeff- ... a ... slab ... Nothing at all wrong with this idea, except that it's much more complicated than is necessary. My present hives are on a sump that...
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Nick H.
sunnyknoll12
Feb 1, 2009 12:00 am
"My present hives are on a sump that is open to the ground." I like that! Thanks John. I will try that this year. Nick NW Oregon...
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davidlcroteau@...
dvdcrowtoe
Feb 1, 2009 12:06 am
However you want to build a sump is fine. Everyone is experimenting at this point. I will probably just build up a plywood floor on the bottom of mine. 3-4...
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billsf9c
Feb 1, 2009 12:19 am
... and a door on the back to clean it out. then make a box under that floor out of 2x4's that would create a dead air space between the concrete slab and...
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moersch51
Feb 1, 2009 12:45 am
Hi- David wrote- "Not even a few spales as in the Apis cerana 'Warrs': http://warre.biobees.com/japan.htm <http://warre.biobees.com/japan.htm> ?" There will...
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Ilmārs B.
kamzolis
Feb 1, 2009 2:37 am
for concrete users I would recomend make concrete from sawdust, it will be warmer a bit. Just mix cement with sawdust and some sand. You could make also...
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billsf9c
Feb 1, 2009 3:27 am
I recall the Japanese fellow with small bees and a small crosssectional Warre'-like hive had a ... spale???... in an "X" in each box's center to secure comb....
