--- In whoconcord@..., "Samuel" <fastidiousrex@y...>
wrote:
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> --- In whoconcord@..., "Alexander Dante"
> <alexanderdante@g...> wrote:
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> There's also Planet 14 (which isn't Marinus, cuz Lawrence Miles says
Marinus is in the Voor Marinii System).

Agreed. It is the Sixth Doctor who equates Planet 14 to both Marinus
*and* Mondas. My take on that conundrum is this:

Worldshaper devices store planetary templates for use in terraforming
projects (perhaps they are the method used for the chronoforming of
the clone Gallifreys in the BBC books). At some point prior to the
story, the device had been used to turn Planet 14 into a clone of
Marinus.

According to Frobisher in that story, Worldshaper machines were
banned when Yxia's planetary system fell apart.

On this basis, the use of a Worldshaper machine might have untold
consequences, throwing Planet 14 out of its orbit. This triggers a
call-out by the worldshaper engineers, who project the planet's final
resting place as being a twin orbit with Planet 3 (Earth).

They activate the worldshaper device and it begins to terraform the
planet into a clone of Earth before it settles into orbit. Because
the planet is occupied, its inhabitants also evolve.

The evolution of the Voord into Cybermen is evidence that the
Worldshaper Devices chronoform rather than terraform. Perhaps in some
projected future the Cybermen evolve on Earth rather than Mondas
(oops, isn't that what Rise of the Cybermen suggests. Ooh, and the
Cybermen mini-series). As the most appropriate template for the
Voord, this is what we see them transformed into.

Planet 14 then becomes Mondas.

> and an inhabited twin to Saturn that was destroyed millions of
years ago (Doctor Who 1974 Annual - I forget the name of the planet).

Of course. Old Father Saturn. I have that annual, so I will check it
out. Heck, it could even be connected to the Worldshaper device!

> > SPECULATIVE SPOILER
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> > ...well-suited to going to war with each other at the end of
Series 2.
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> > Thoughts?
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> Well, there's Anathema. If it's a Faction Paradox colony on the
> surface of an asteroid (aka Time Lord bomb) travelling towards Earth
> c.1800-1996 then it probably started its journey in the Kuiper Belt,
> ald would have looked normal because of the Sycorax activity. There
> would almost certainly have been some interaction between The Remote
> and the Sycorax, which could explain their similarities!

That's actually pretty freaky, but appears to fit nicely. The Sycorax
would probably have acquired their Haemopsychic Matrix from the
Anathema colony before its demise only a decade before The Christmas
Invasion.

AD