FORWARDED FROM THE BRITISH PISTOL CLUB:-
All,
We have had this forwarded to us and believe that our members
would be interested.
"http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?
EDMID=30407&SESSION=875
<http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?
EDMID=30407&SESSION=875>
We would ask everyone to contact their MP now and ask them to sign
Early Day Motion 1930 It is easy. Use either of the following links:
http://www.writetothem.com/ or
http://www.owos.info/how_you_can_help/contact_MP.php
Best regards.
Jessie and Robin
---------------------------------------------
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
> From Trevor Haynes ..............
>
> If you haven't seen the following yet, it's taken from the NSRA
> > website. You can help by asking your MP to sign the EDM.
> >
> > HOUSE OF COMMONS EARLY DAY MOTION - PISTOL SHOOTING & MICK GAULT
> >
> > Kate Hoey MP, the former Minister of Sport, has set down a House
of
> > Commons Early Day Motion on the subject of pistol shooting. It
> reads:
> >
> > EXEMPTIONS FOR THE SPORT OF OLYMPIC PISTOL SHOOTING
> >
> > That this House recognises the importance of the success of
Michael
> > Gault in the pistol shooting events in the Commonwealth Games in
> > Melbourne; and conscious of the fact that most of his training
and
> > that of other world-class pistol shooters has had to take place
> > outside Great Britain due to the gun laws; calls on the Home
> Secretary
> > to exempt the sport of Olympic pistol shooting from the handgun
> ban to
> > allow athletes for the London Olympics to train at home.
> >
> > An Early Day Motion is not debated in the House except in very
> > exceptional circumstances which are not likely to apply in this
> case.
> > The EDM is No. 1930 in a series which started with No. 1 being
> tabled
> > on 17 May 2005. It is, however, an opportunity for back benchers
> to
> > express a view on a particular subject. The greater the number
of
> > signatures appended and the more cross-Party support it receives
> the
> > better. When originally tabled it was signed by five members of
> > Parliament - three Labour, one Conservative and one Liberal
> Democrat.
> >
> > The following has details of the EDM and lists MP's that have
thus
> far
> > signed it (not very many)
> >
> > http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?
> EDMID=30407&SESSION=875
> >
>
Hi all,
I look forward to joining you saturday at the training if all goes
well at the hospital, i should be out by thursday if all goes well and
have friday to recouperate.
Andy
From Trevor Haynes ..............
If you haven't seen the following yet, it's taken from the NSRA
> website. You can help by asking your MP to sign the EDM.
>
> HOUSE OF COMMONS EARLY DAY MOTION - PISTOL SHOOTING & MICK GAULT
>
> Kate Hoey MP, the former Minister of Sport, has set down a House of
> Commons Early Day Motion on the subject of pistol shooting. It
reads:
>
> EXEMPTIONS FOR THE SPORT OF OLYMPIC PISTOL SHOOTING
>
> That this House recognises the importance of the success of Michael
> Gault in the pistol shooting events in the Commonwealth Games in
> Melbourne; and conscious of the fact that most of his training and
> that of other world-class pistol shooters has had to take place
> outside Great Britain due to the gun laws; calls on the Home
Secretary
> to exempt the sport of Olympic pistol shooting from the handgun
ban to
> allow athletes for the London Olympics to train at home.
>
> An Early Day Motion is not debated in the House except in very
> exceptional circumstances which are not likely to apply in this
case.
> The EDM is No. 1930 in a series which started with No. 1 being
tabled
> on 17 May 2005. It is, however, an opportunity for back benchers
to
> express a view on a particular subject. The greater the number of
> signatures appended and the more cross-Party support it receives
the
> better. When originally tabled it was signed by five members of
> Parliament - three Labour, one Conservative and one Liberal
Democrat.
>
> The following has details of the EDM and lists MP's that have thus
far
> signed it (not very many)
>
> http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?
EDMID=30407&SESSION=875
>
Hello all,
As requested i will be bringing my laptop and camera to the next
training day, if people have those little removable storage sticks
that plug into the usb port then please bring them as my cd does not
have a wrighter, mpegs are also usefull to see how the setup is made
and you can view it with your coach on any pc or palmtop.
Also i am looking into the mental side of shooting that usually gets
overlooked and bringing with me various exercises for people to try!
Good luck and happy shooting!
ANDY
> Dear All,
>
> The Sportsman's Association is organising a welcoming committee for
> Micky Gault and the rest of the English Squad that are returning
from
> Australia on Tuesday afternoon at 1330 - Heathrow terminal 4.
>
> I would be grateful if you could use your email address book to
pass
> the message on to fellow shooters and ask them to let me know if
they
> can make it.
>
> Time is short and we want to try and get some media interest but
we do
> not want to wind up the media to be there unless we know we are
going
> to get a good turn out to welcome them. It would be embarrassing
if we
> could not be bothered to welcome Micky & co back when we have been
> giving the media a hard time for their lack of interest in the
past.
>
> Please help by sending this message to as many shooters as possible
> and I look forward to a overfull email box over the next two days.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Albie
>
> 01743 873123
> Fax 01743 874905
>
> Visit our website atwww.albiefox.net
Yes i can save them to disk as i told Mary that i would do just that
when the subject was raised.
Also i have had sight raiseing blocks made at work for another 12mm
in height for the fron and rear sights, i have also made a dortable
laser device to attach to the barrel for training purposes, i will
post a picture of it for you to look at very soon!
I can also bring my lap top and digital camera to the next session,
i also have a camcorder if needed?
I have rebuilt my rifle tonight and feels better so i can take it to
the range and give it a run, i will use the exercise also when im
happy with rifle you gave us to do.
Happy shooting!
Andy
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
> Ah, I forgot about that aspect.
>
> OK, Can you save'em to disc for next time?
>
> Nigel
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell"
<andyjcpagan@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was told not to! do you still want me to post them?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > --- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Nigel
> > >
> >
>
Ah, I forgot about that aspect.
OK, Can you save'em to disc for next time?
Nigel
--- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell" <andyjcpagan@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was told not to! do you still want me to post them?
>
> Andy
>
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Nigel
> >
>
Hello
Thankyou very nuch for an excellent training day yesterday and look
very much to the next on on the 22nd april.
Is there anything imperticular you would like me to concentrate on
before the next session?
Andy
Ok, 9:30am.
Keys maybe but will give the heat a miss, my dibs on a space between
them!
I dabble at pistol but concentrate on rife.
Dont know any Nigel! Whos that?
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
> If you're gonna be there for 9 you'd better get the keys off Tony
so
> you can open up & get the heat (and the kettle) on.
> The ref to coaches was for existing squad members.
> If you're into Pistol you need to let Trevor haynes know.
> If it's rifle there's some other bloke, Nigel something or other.
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell"
<andyjcpagan@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nigel,
> >
> > I will be coming but cant let my coach know as i dont have one?
> > I just coach myself and read a lot!
> >
> > See you at 9am, Dont be late :-)lol
> >
> > Andy Charnell
> >
> >
> > --- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > The next one is at the NISC on the 18th of March.
> > >
> > > Anyone who's thinking of going should let their coach know,
> please.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nigel
> > >
> >
>
If you're gonna be there for 9 you'd better get the keys off Tony so
you can open up & get the heat (and the kettle) on.
The ref to coaches was for existing squad members.
If you're into Pistol you need to let Trevor haynes know.
If it's rifle there's some other bloke, Nigel something or other.
Nigel
--- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell" <andyjcpagan@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> I will be coming but cant let my coach know as i dont have one?
> I just coach myself and read a lot!
>
> See you at 9am, Dont be late :-)lol
>
> Andy Charnell
>
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
> >
> > The next one is at the NISC on the 18th of March.
> >
> > Anyone who's thinking of going should let their coach know,
please.
> >
> >
> > Nigel
> >
>
Hi Nigel,
I will be coming but cant let my coach know as i dont have one?
I just coach myself and read a lot!
See you at 9am, Dont be late :-)lol
Andy Charnell
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
> The next one is at the NISC on the 18th of March.
>
> Anyone who's thinking of going should let their coach know, please.
>
>
> Nigel
>
Thanks for this Nigel!
Its very true and this kind of publicity needs to be shown to the
public as they only understand what the media tell them and are
programmed to think all shooters are ticking time bombs?
As shooters we all have from time to time been the subject of, "Oh,
your a shooter, your a nutter" Im tired of trying to explain to these
biased or more accurately single dimesioned individuals and they need
to be eduacted to understand the facts.
Our sport is under threat from ignorance perportaraited by a media
induced histeria!
Is this video clip going to be displyed on terestrial tv?
Andy
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/frd7q
>
>
> Note: Tinyurl is a great way to ensure that a link will work when
used
> in conjunction with these forums.
>
> Nigel
>
You are required to act again!
"The Scottish Sunday Herald is running a poll - should all firearms be
banned? Follow link and vote:
http://www.sundayherald.com/ "
Vote now, Please!
Nigel
I have found a shooting simulator site that you can have a go at
severn different ranges with fairly realsitic thingies n stuff!?
Here it is and happy shooting!
http://www.hlberg.dk/eurosimulator/shooting_uk.html
Andy
Should've done this properly in the first place.
This message was received from the BPC:-
"All,
You may have heard that Target Sports magazine have started
a petition to get .22 pistols back.
Those of you who would like to sign this petition can do so
by "clicking" on the address below:-
http://www.blazepublishing.co.uk/petition
We would also remind you that, at the weekend shoot on 11th/12th
March, 25m Standard Pistol and Sport Pistol (SHG) will also be shot
indoors at the Lord Roberts Centre.
Jessie and Robin"
Andy
Take a look at
http://www.issf-shooting.org/
All the rules & the amendments are there and can be downloaded as pdf
files
FOR FREE!!!!!
I like the adjustable 'cross hair' type sights too as you can set the
cross hairs for your own angle of 'cant'.
The Centra ones are good & if you speak to Ian Shirra Gibb at Centra UK
www.centra-uk.co.uk
he'll make sure you get the right one.
Just make sure you screw it far enough into the foresight tunnel so
you don't exceed the overall length for the foresight assembly (50mm)
Nigel
--- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell" <andyjcpagan@y...>
wrote:
>
> I am lookignat buyinh a adjustable foresight, i already have one but
> like the one i have seen but instead of having two horizontal bars
it
> has a cross hair arrangment, does this still conply with current
> regulations, i know that magnifying lenses are elligal!
>
> Also prone hand stops, what are the current regulations on this
item?
> i am looking at an anshutz type that fits my existing sling with the
> wide clip on loop.
>
> Andy
>
I am looking into one of my books in my library that concerns Pilates
and on perusing through this book i have noticed that there may be
some advantige in certain exercises that will benefit shooters both in
strengthening the back in the standing and prone positions and for
general suppleness and endurance with the Pilates ethod of breathing
while doing said method!
This book is "the complete Classic Pilates Method" isbn 1-4050-0558-0.
Andy
I am lookignat buyinh a adjustable foresight, i already have one but
like the one i have seen but instead of having two horizontal bars it
has a cross hair arrangment, does this still conply with current
regulations, i know that magnifying lenses are elligal!
Also prone hand stops, what are the current regulations on this item?
i am looking at an anshutz type that fits my existing sling with the
wide clip on loop.
Andy
Andy
The Yuryev book is still looked on as the 'Target Shooters Bible'
even though it has been around for years. I believe it is still in
print. I think it's called "Competetive shooting by AA Yuryev" and
is available from the NSRA.
(Reminds me, must get my copy back from the person I lent it to.
They've only had it for about 4 years!!!)
As far as the stand is concerned, I think you're right. So long as
you don't encroach on the adjacent shooters space you're OK.
Nigel
Rifle Coach WMRTSS
--- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell" <andyjcpagan@y...>
wrote:
>
> I do not believe i have seen this book as the only information i
have
> is from Heinz Reinkemeier and Gaby Buhlmann, also William (Bill)
> Krilling. Autogenic conditioning tape i have is currently being
> transferred to cd eventually! Plus various Visualisation,
meditation
> books that can be incorperated to the shooting disaplines.
>
> As you said, shooting trousers are a good thing and provide
support
> but i train at home dry firing and fine tuning without the
trappings
> of extra kit as its my opinion that if you cannot acheive a decent
> technique without the gear how then the gear wont help very much.
> Perfect the inner postions and only then look without! because if
you
> are not comportable then this will culminate into dought and that
is
> unproductive in a competition mindset!
>
> Just a question, rifle stands.....is it ok to use a tripod as i
dont
> have a special shooting stand just a home made thingy, are they
still
> ok to use as im not sure if they may have been ruled against and
if
> not is it ok as long as the legs dont incrouch into the next
shooters
> lane room?
>
> Andy
>
There are plenty of airgun clubs in and around London, especially if
you are talking about 10m air rifle/pistol.
Your local library will have a list, as will your local police
station.
The NSRA have a club finder service at
http://www.nsra.co.uk/
Nigel
Rifle Coach WMRTSS
--- In wmrtss@..., "Aleks Loesch"
<aleksanderloesch@y...> wrote:
>
> Well I am a beginer shooter, and have only had the chance to shoot
> an air rifle in the countryside at a friends. But I live in the
> center of london, so I cannot pop off to cumbria to do so often
> enough to become any good at the sport, and it doesnt seem that
> there ere any shooting clubs in the center of london.
>
> But, I will be going to Wolverhampton in a week or so, and I shall
> have a look@ Aldesley.
>
> Cheers,
> Aleksander L.
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Alek, if you've not already done so, join a club with target
> airgun
> > facilities.
> > You won't find many proper 'target' airguns in sporting
> > shooting/outdoor sports shops.
> > In a club there'll be plenty of trading going on & also the
option
> > on trying various makes & models so you can narrow down what
> you're
> > looking for.
> > If the club ia affiliated to the NSRA, there'll also be club
> > magazines around with classified sections.
> >
> > If you're prepared to tell us a little more about yourself, what
> > shooting you're doing & where, we may be able to help you.
> >
> > Nigel
> > Rifle Coach WMRTSS
> >
> > --- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell"
> <andyjcpagan@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Alek,
> > >
> > > If you dont live very far away from the NISC at
> > Wolverhampton
> > > there you can find a notice board if they still have one,
> shooters
> > > sometimes post For Sale signs to sell rifle n stuff when they
> > upgrade,
> > > maybe you might find something or call Tony Taylor then he
could
> > tell
> > > you if there is anything there?
> > >
> > > I believe the calibre your looking for is .177" as any other
> > calibre
> > > cannot be used in air rifle target shooting, im assuming you
> know
> > this
> > > and im not trying to make out that you dont know!
> > >
> > > Also Tony is a member of the Wolverhampton bell target leauge,
> so
> > he
> > > could ask around for you!
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In wmrtss@..., "Aleks Loesch"
> > > <aleksanderloesch@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, I am looking to purchase a beginer's rifle, I cannot
> afford
> > more
> > > > than £150, but would prefer it to be under £100. Could
anybody
> > give
> > > me
> > > > some advice on what to get and where? Or perhaps, they would
> be
> > > > interested in selling one? I would prefer a 1.77, and a good
> > sight
> > > to
> > > > go with. Anything extra would be briliant aslo.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Aleksander L.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Well I am a beginer shooter, and have only had the chance to shoot
an air rifle in the countryside at a friends. But I live in the
center of london, so I cannot pop off to cumbria to do so often
enough to become any good at the sport, and it doesnt seem that
there ere any shooting clubs in the center of london.
But, I will be going to Wolverhampton in a week or so, and I shall
have a look@ Aldesley.
Cheers,
Aleksander L.
--- In wmrtss@..., "Nigel" <northwood60@y...> wrote:
>
> Alek, if you've not already done so, join a club with target
airgun
> facilities.
> You won't find many proper 'target' airguns in sporting
> shooting/outdoor sports shops.
> In a club there'll be plenty of trading going on & also the option
> on trying various makes & models so you can narrow down what
you're
> looking for.
> If the club ia affiliated to the NSRA, there'll also be club
> magazines around with classified sections.
>
> If you're prepared to tell us a little more about yourself, what
> shooting you're doing & where, we may be able to help you.
>
> Nigel
> Rifle Coach WMRTSS
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell"
<andyjcpagan@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Alek,
> >
> > If you dont live very far away from the NISC at
> Wolverhampton
> > there you can find a notice board if they still have one,
shooters
> > sometimes post For Sale signs to sell rifle n stuff when they
> upgrade,
> > maybe you might find something or call Tony Taylor then he could
> tell
> > you if there is anything there?
> >
> > I believe the calibre your looking for is .177" as any other
> calibre
> > cannot be used in air rifle target shooting, im assuming you
know
> this
> > and im not trying to make out that you dont know!
> >
> > Also Tony is a member of the Wolverhampton bell target leauge,
so
> he
> > could ask around for you!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > --- In wmrtss@..., "Aleks Loesch"
> > <aleksanderloesch@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, I am looking to purchase a beginer's rifle, I cannot
afford
> more
> > > than £150, but would prefer it to be under £100. Could anybody
> give
> > me
> > > some advice on what to get and where? Or perhaps, they would
be
> > > interested in selling one? I would prefer a 1.77, and a good
> sight
> > to
> > > go with. Anything extra would be briliant aslo.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Aleksander L.
> > >
> >
>
I do not believe i have seen this book as the only information i have
is from Heinz Reinkemeier and Gaby Buhlmann, also William (Bill)
Krilling. Autogenic conditioning tape i have is currently being
transferred to cd eventually! Plus various Visualisation, meditation
books that can be incorperated to the shooting disaplines.
As you said, shooting trousers are a good thing and provide support
but i train at home dry firing and fine tuning without the trappings
of extra kit as its my opinion that if you cannot acheive a decent
technique without the gear how then the gear wont help very much.
Perfect the inner postions and only then look without! because if you
are not comportable then this will culminate into dought and that is
unproductive in a competition mindset!
Just a question, rifle stands.....is it ok to use a tripod as i dont
have a special shooting stand just a home made thingy, are they still
ok to use as im not sure if they may have been ruled against and if
not is it ok as long as the legs dont incrouch into the next shooters
lane room?
Andy
Alek, if you've not already done so, join a club with target airgun
facilities.
You won't find many proper 'target' airguns in sporting
shooting/outdoor sports shops.
In a club there'll be plenty of trading going on & also the option
on trying various makes & models so you can narrow down what you're
looking for.
If the club ia affiliated to the NSRA, there'll also be club
magazines around with classified sections.
If you're prepared to tell us a little more about yourself, what
shooting you're doing & where, we may be able to help you.
Nigel
Rifle Coach WMRTSS
--- In wmrtss@..., "Andy Charnell" <andyjcpagan@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Alek,
>
> If you dont live very far away from the NISC at Aldesley
Wolverhampton
> there you can find a notice board if they still have one, shooters
> sometimes post For Sale signs to sell rifle n stuff when they
upgrade,
> maybe you might find something or call Tony Taylor then he could
tell
> you if there is anything there?
>
> I believe the calibre your looking for is .177" as any other
calibre
> cannot be used in air rifle target shooting, im assuming you know
this
> and im not trying to make out that you dont know!
>
> Also Tony is a member of the Wolverhampton bell target leauge, so
he
> could ask around for you!
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Andy
>
>
> --- In wmrtss@..., "Aleks Loesch"
> <aleksanderloesch@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I am looking to purchase a beginer's rifle, I cannot afford
more
> > than £150, but would prefer it to be under £100. Could anybody
give
> me
> > some advice on what to get and where? Or perhaps, they would be
> > interested in selling one? I would prefer a 1.77, and a good
sight
> to
> > go with. Anything extra would be briliant aslo.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Aleksander L.
> >
>
Hey Alek,
If you dont live very far away from the NISC at Aldesley Wolverhampton
there you can find a notice board if they still have one, shooters
sometimes post For Sale signs to sell rifle n stuff when they upgrade,
maybe you might find something or call Tony Taylor then he could tell
you if there is anything there?
I believe the calibre your looking for is .177" as any other calibre
cannot be used in air rifle target shooting, im assuming you know this
and im not trying to make out that you dont know!
Also Tony is a member of the Wolverhampton bell target leauge, so he
could ask around for you!
Good Luck!
Andy
--- In wmrtss@..., "Aleks Loesch"
<aleksanderloesch@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I am looking to purchase a beginer's rifle, I cannot afford more
> than £150, but would prefer it to be under £100. Could anybody give
me
> some advice on what to get and where? Or perhaps, they would be
> interested in selling one? I would prefer a 1.77, and a good sight
to
> go with. Anything extra would be briliant aslo.
>
> Cheers,
> Aleksander L.
>
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