Re: Chicken or the egg?
- --- In autdb@y..., "crafaud" <c.rafaud@s...> wrote:
> --- In autdb@y..., "adriano_dessanti" <dessanti@o...> wrote:Parramatta
> > Take a look at two university bus routes- route 333 from
> By contrast Westbus route 780 started off with an infrequent
> service to the UWS Penrith campuses and gained loads whichfluctuated
> wildly but over time trended downwards with poor patronage on offRiverside
> peak services. The response? Fewer services even though the
> route is better designed then it was 5 years ago. And the
> demographics are not different to route 333. The service caters
> mainly to UWS and TAFE students from not too wealthy backgrounds.
> If they had at least trialed a high frequency service like
> did at Parramatta and have at least half hourly off peak servicesUWS actually run their own bus service to and from Kingswood
> theycould have got high loadings and adjust accordingly.
> Another reason why route 780 is not well patronised is that the
Station. In fact there are usually two in peak times run by
Interlines low floor Csepels - 35 seaters or thereabouts. During
morning and afternoon peaks they run a loop around the campus and
across to Kingswood Rail. Students only need their ID cards.
- --- In autdb@y..., "westbus2001" <busman@s...> wrote:
> > Another reason why route 780 is not well patronised is that theThe story with the UWS loop service is a bit complicated. Unless
> UWS actually run their own bus service to and from Kingswood
> Station. In fact there are usually two in peak times run by
> Interlines low floor Csepels - 35 seaters or thereabouts. During
> morning and afternoon peaks they run a loop around the campus and
> across to Kingswood Rail. Students only need their ID cards.
there has been any change from what I remember, it runs to Kingswood
rail until the first 780 service starts and then only after 5.30pm
(or the last 780 service) because of an arrangement with Westbus that
they won't unfairly impact on route 780 patronage.
During the day usingthe two Csepels, Interline runs a loop around UWS
providing a short wait of only 10 minutes from any stop inside the
campus. At any one time there could be up to 30 students on board or
as little 3 or 4.
Route 780 is not a loop service as such. It runs up to Werrington
side of the campus from St Marys comes back onto Gt Western Hwy and
then into Second Avenue stopping in front of the Kingswood campus and
then onto Penrith. It is the only service currently that links St
Marys and Penrith to two parts (but not all sections) of the campus.
While it doesn't run alongside the Interline route to the back
section of UWS, it could be made more effective if the frequency was
increased substantially. People don't mind changing buses if the wait
Another Westbus route, 790 is half hourly service and stops in front
of the Kinsgwood campus(Second Avenue) but doesn't run near the
Werrington side. It takes an extra five minutes because of a longer
run taking in Claremont Meadows.
The campus itself is not well planned being split on both sides of
the Gt Western Hwy and also on land in Kingswood with large blocks of
land between buildings. The ideal route is one that combines both the
Interline and Westbus route linking St Marys and Penrith with a
regular frequency. But don't expect any changes soon.